Thank you, Member for Monfwi. Minister responsible for Housing NWT.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Member for the question as well too because this mortgage program is quite an old program. It was a program that CMHC had engaged in with Housing Corporation at that time. These files are quite dated, and the collection on them is quite huge. We have 247 mortgage files throughout the Northwest Territories, and the collection number on them is quite significant as well too.

These files are probably about -- I want to say approximately about 15 to 20 years old. And we are working with the outstanding of these files as well too. But we do work very closely with the clients as well. The other thing that I have realized with homeownership is it's very hard for the client to maintain their own home and looking at structural improvements that are needed over a certain amount of time which ends up in a lot of damages over a period of time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I hear from constituents in my riding how they must resort to garnishing the little income they receive in order to pay for their housing. In some cases, people with children -- especially with children are applying for Jordan's Principle to pay back Housing Corporation arrears.

Does the Housing Corporation consider the means a client has to pay back their debts? How can the Housing or GNWT collect Jordan's Principle payments from a client when that funding is supposed to be used for social, health, and education supports, not to prevent homelessness? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Member for the question as well too, that when we're looking at garnishees for the Northwest Territories, this is a long -- a long process. And looking at the garnishing, that is our last resort in attempts to recovering that funding that is needed to be paid back to Housing NWT. And Jordan's Principle, I don't want to comment on that program as it's not a territorial program. I don't approve or deny applications so I'm not too familiar with their criteria. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, elders are on fixed income. Can the Minister explain what type of integrated and personalized support the NWT Housing provides for elders and for others to ensure that they can remain in their homes without living in poverty? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Member the question. Housing NWT is a social program. We don't look at the high market rent in each of the smaller communities and the larger centres. We're severely subsidized to house people throughout the Northwest Territories. And looking at the elders and the fixed income, if the Member has some issues within her riding I'd like to take a look at those files as well too and further have those discussions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Minister. Final supplementary, Member for Monfwi.

Mr. Speaker, that's good information. I know that the housing is -- public units are social programs. And there are some people that are paying max rent. It is a social program. And some is in deplorable condition, and they are paying $1,500 a month. And that is not part of a subsidized program. If it was a subsidized program, it would be less than that, people living on fixed income.

Mr. Speaker, it's not just my region that I am talking about. It's all over the Northwest Territories, especially in small communities, that I am advocating for too as well. So Mr. Speaker, many elders in the NWT still care for children and grandchildren. Although they are elders, they may still care for many family members as well, and this comes at a financial cost.

Mr. Speaker, how is the Minister of Housing considering the financial burden on elders who still need to care for children, grandchildren, or other family members? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Member for the question as well too. And looking at the rent that we are charging that is according to our rental rates throughout the Northwest Territories, I just wanted to comment on it further that we don't -- to operate these units, it's 25,000 -- this number was given to me about -- it was a number provided ten years ago. And looking at the increase of fuel, the increase of power, I don't have that accurate number in front of me. But these units are severely subsidized. I really want to emphasize on that. And if we're looking at the $1,500 per month for the client that the Member had mentioned, I would like to take a look at that too and further provide an explanation of how we got to that number.

And also the Member had also spoken about the children, the grandchildren, the grandparents, the elders. We do have an overcrowding issue throughout the Northwest Territories and mainly in the smaller communities as well. With the response on that, we are doing a complete policy review of all of Housing's policies as well, and we have just entered into a renewal as well too. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.