Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The test is not whether anyone was offended. We are allowed, and in fact encouraged, to say things that will offend people in this House. That is healthy debate. The test is whether it was imputing motive. And I don't believe the statement that if the children in care were white and not Indigenous there would be a whole-of-government approach imputes any motive. In fact, I don't believe the motives of my Cabinet colleagues or any of the people in this House are remotely, you know, racist or prejudice towards Indigenous children in care. I know they deeply care. But that is not how systemic racism works. Systemic racism and systems that clearly in our territory arise out of -- as the Member from Inuvik Twin Lakes stated, arise out of residential schools, arise out of the Sixties Scoop carry on and that I believe it is a simple fact that if all of the children in care were white, there would be a whole-of-government approach.

We are talking about child and family services. We are talking about a very sensitive subject. And Mr. Speaker, we need to be able to talk about systemic racism and stay statement -- say statements like that. I am very concerned if you make this ruling, you hamper you censor future debate in this House about a very key subject. And you take many people in this House who are then afraid about what they are going to be able to say in the realm of child and family services. We need to be able to have frank debate in this House. It is not a matter of offending anyone on either side of the aisle, Mr. Speaker.

I will not apologize. I think apologizing, withdrawing that statement, is bad for democracy and bad for the very important conversation that we need to have. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.