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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll have President Young respond. Thank you.

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The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ms. Young.

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Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yesterday we spoke about our homeownership initiative program and under that program, we do a book value calculation but actually the tenant will not have to pay for the house. We forgive the value of the house over a three to five-year forgiveness period. So the homeowner will take ownership of the house at the beginning of that period, but they don't actually have to pay for the value of the house through that program. We actually forgive that through a forgivable loan. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Edjericon.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Say if there's a unit now that's a little bit newer, say whether it's 20 or 30 years old with a higher unit condition rating, if a family is living in there, say they have some adult siblings and there's only one income, so would that homeowner take into consideration the older siblings or that kind of thing or children as a dependant so that it could be calculated in the sale of that house? You know what I'm saying? Because you got one -- because we got big families, eh, in our communities. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll have President Young respond. It's kind of a complex response. Thank you.

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The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ms. Young.

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Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So if I understand the question, it would not affect the sale price of the house at all because that's calculated based on the house. But we would be speaking with the family on the income that comes into the house to ensure that they can afford to pay the utilities and operating costs. So we would be counselling and working with the family to make sure that they feel comfortable and that we feel comfortable, there's adequate income to cover the cost of operating a house. We don't want to set somebody up for failure. And so that would be the conversation related to the income. It wouldn't affect the sale cost on the house itself. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Edjericon.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yesterday I mentioned that there was over 2,900 public housing units you have. How are you guys going to -- or better yet, how are you going to get rid of these northern rental units and Webber homes? What's your inventory going to look like, say -- because we already know that 2036 CMHC's going to be cutting back their funding. So what is your plan in liquidating all these homes, these older homes throughout the community? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have 600 single-family dwellings across the Northwest Territories, and those units are currently up for sale but we'd work with the client to making sure that they do have adequate income to run a home and also the upgrades that may be required for those units as well too. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Edjericon.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regards to, say, if there was a client that you had that lives in these Webber units and were interested in purchasing that unit but they have arrears, is there a way that you guys could have a plan to work with the homeowner to look at maybe liquidating these units even though it's at, you know, 40 or 50 years old and say if it's rated at 45 percent on unit condition rating, would you guys be able to look at something like that? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. If there is an interest out there that, you know, the individual does have arrears, we will enter into a payment plan. And if they are interested in a homeownership program, three to five years, I'm interested in working with that tenant. But I want to make sure that they're able to afford the fuel, the utilities, and so on for those units as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Edjericon.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you. And, yeah, and then I guess you have to consider working with probably income support too because some of these families -- again, in small communities, we don't have employment. And so I guess you have to be flexible. So would that be something you guys consider as well? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The homeownership program is -- this is why we look at the income, to making sure that they're able to operate and maintain these units, that they would solely have to be able to cover the cost on their own. I'm not too sure about income support. If we're selling one unit and then depending on another social program to pay for the unit, that was not the intent. The intent is to have people become homeowners. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Edjericon.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In this budget this year, CMHC has -- you guys have a $20 million budget there to get from CMHC too for your operation and maintenance. What's going to happen here now in 2036? It's going to come to an end so how is Housing NWT going to start dealing with public housing after 2036? What is your plan? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.