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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We try to work with our client. I don't want to complicate what it is that we do. If they are denied for one programming or we're oversubscribed, we our best to try to move that program around or what type of repairs that individual may need. The department tries very hard not to deny the clients. We don't have that number in front of us right now, but we can get back to the Member with the number. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Simpson.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. One issue that I see arises once in a while is the fact that seniors, who have been approved under retrofits and repairs, in communities I guess where -- like, Hay River's going to be an issue. I'll use that as an example just because the flooding, the amount of work that's going on there. I know there's people looking to have work done this year. They've been approved. And I know the cost -- when the costs come in, they're probably going to be a lot more than what you think it's going to be and it's going to be over that -- over the limit. How do you deal with that? Do you top that off a bit, top it up a bit, or do you just put it on the client to pick up the difference? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. One of the changes that we have made with the seniors program is we increased I think it's the seniors aging in place modification and repair from, I think it was $10,000 to $15,000, and we limited the co-pay. But I'll just have Eleanor respond further on the details. President Young. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ms. Young.

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Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So there's a number of mitigation tactics we'll use. One might be to rescope the project, if that's possible, within the scope of the project. We also can look at different procurement techniques. So, for example, perhaps bundling like-projects together to try to get pricing that will work within the budgets we've got. We try -- because these are set in policy, we do try to work within the program caps as much as possible, so we try to use those other techniques first to try to accommodate that or split it over two years. There's a number of tactics we can use to try to accommodate it if that's the issue. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Simpson.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, and that's good to hear that at least you're looking at ways to kind of reduce that cost and get it within budget because I know in Hay River there are a number of people with compromised roofs on their houses and with that, you know, they've been tarped for a couple years, two or three years, and they've been -- and there's been ongoing damage because of water and that as well which then, you know, it's the insulation on the inside, it's the electrical, and then the whole issue just -- and damage gets more costly. So, you know, the quicker we can actually deal with these issues as they arise, the better. So I guess more of a comment than anything. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister, did you want to provide? Any further questions in this section? Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. This is the section where there's some discussion of homeownership programs, and I'm just wondering how does the housing corporation sort of, what kind of metrics, what kind of measurements that it keeps around homeownership? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll have President Young elaborate on the response. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ms. Young.

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Young

Thanks, Mr. Chair. And primarily our metrics would be based on applications, number of applications we receive in any given year, the budget that's spent on any given year. We don't have an awful lot of detail of homes outside of those that we support through our programming. But in terms of our own programming, we would keep a fair amount of data about amount of money we spend on programming, the number of homes we approve, etcetera, etcetera. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Okay, thanks, Mr. Chair. Yeah, if I guess the corporation is going to continue to promote homeownership, I think you probably need to measure it a little bit better. You know, is it -- I don't know, do you look at sales of vacant units? Or, you know, do any of the clients in public housing get opportunities or options to purchase the homes that they live in, and if so, how is that tracked over time? I guess I'm just trying to figure out how do you actually measure success of your homeownership programs. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. When we began in the life of this government that homeownership was identified as a priority, letters have gotten out to all public housing tenants that were possibly eligible or interested in becoming homeowners. I said previously that the uptake of it was not as strong as I thought it possibly would be. So then we ended up coming up with a different type of homeownership programming where we have the three to five years and the forgivable with that as well. I'll have President Young elaborate on the further details. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ms. Young.

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Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And to add what the Minister said, really the way we design our programs will lend itself to some of that reporting. So we have the homeownership initiative which is the -- you know, the sale of public housing units in our communities. We have the home purchase program which is more in market communities. And we do track any of our own vacant units that we sell. So we would be able to provide that kind of detail on a year-over-year basis. And that's what I meant, you know, when we track it by program is the easiest way for us to be able to measure success and see change year over year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Yeah, okay, thanks. Yeah, those are good metrics. And I guess while we're just on the subject of metrics and data, does the housing corporation actually produce an annual report that tracks all of these sort of metrics, indicators, and where do people find that? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We just track the approval of the applications right now. We don't really have anything in place. We just create that type of report. Thank you, Mr. Chair.