Mr. Martin.
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Martin
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, so housing, as the Minister mentioned, does undertake a regular review of our assets both in terms of condition and age, and this is good information to inform how we prioritize our dollars that are available for capital investment year to year. We also do look to the longer term, and we did outline in the core need report that was tabled -- I forget the date that was. It was tabled a year ago or so, but during the last review of the mains. And in that report, we did outline a 20-year outlook for required public housing replacements to sustain our public housing stock, and those details were outlined there. And we did indicate that we needed to replace, over that timeline, approximately 1,300 units. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. You know, admittedly I have to delve into that report. And I know we always throw around these numbers of billions of dollars to get our stock up to where it should be. I'm just curious, you know, we have a budget here with a $30 million increase and that's good. But do we have kind of a monetary figure of -- you know, in an asset management plan if you -- the last question was how are we going to pay for this or what is it going to cost. I'm just -- the bare maintenance, according to replacing that 1,300 unit number, how much money or additional money we need? Thank you.
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Martin
Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's a big number. It's $1 billion. We mentioned this during the last review. But we do recognize it's a large number, and we do continue to certainly look for supplementary funding sources, such as the federal government, to help supplement our capital investments and stay ahead of this, the aging infrastructure investment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
No further questions; just a comment. You know, I -- well, it would be nice to get -- I guess there's that $1 billion figure which is to basically do the bare minimum and maintain our assets going forward and replace those that are well beyond their life. How much approximately is that per year that we would need? Yeah, I think that's probably a more tangible number for me to understand, is how much would we have to increase the housing corp's budget to just meet that basic asset management standard? Thank you.
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Paulie Chinna Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll have vice-president Jim Martin reveal the number. Thank you.
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Martin
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So annualized, that would be around $55 million a year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Katrina Nokleby Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. There's lots of good programs here under the grants and contributions and transfers part. And I would be remiss if I didn't ask about the seniors aging in place retrofits and repairs. Noting that it has dropped slightly from the 2022-2023 -- and I'm on page 388 of the estimates. I'm just curious to know why we're seeing a little bit of a drop there. And given, you know, I think that we've had lots of conversation around keeping seniors in home as long as possible, it's quite an important topic. So could the Minister provide more information on that? Thank you.
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Paulie Chinna Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll have vice-president Jim Martin explain the reason why the number has dropped. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Martin
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, so the seniors aging in place amount here at 2.1 for the 2022-2023 revised reflects the additional funding that was invested into homeownership programs overall, part of that $4 million that was mentioned. For the subsequent year, a component of that funding was allocated to the expansion of the hundred units to cover the O and M for 2023-2024. So that explains the slight delta there. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Katrina Nokleby Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So if I am understanding that right, a portion of the money that was meant to go directly to these retrofits or repairs was then used for administrative purposes by the department? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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