Thank you, Madam Chair. Firstly, we now have an environmental liabilities dashboard so I would like to thank the government for taking that step. But it's not quite as fulsome as the federal one and hopefully we get there one day. And to this point, specifically we can see in the public accounts the total environmental liabilities for the GNWT, and then you go to the dashboard and you can see all the sites we have environmental liabilities for but you actually can't figure out what the estimated liability is for any individual site. And Finance, during public accounts, says they don't want to do that because it'll affect procurement, and I'll note the federal government does it. And the other reason at times they don't do it is because some of the sites are essentially at zero dollars, no cost estimate has yet really been fulsomely done to note the environmental liability. The feds have done some really cool work in this. They've actually created models for the -- you know, they categorized the type of contaminated site they have and then they go and find an average clean-up cost and it's a moving model of what they -- you know, if you have a gas station, what does a gas station cost to clean up as an example. And then they book that as a liability. So that's a great step we can potentially take.
And I'll just once again belay I don't think the procurement concern is real. You know, we have some contaminated sites and the cost estimate is from, say, 2015 and it's been shared with committee. We all know that already that cost estimate is out of date and by the time you actually go to procure the work, it's probably a decade or two away and the scope of work will change. So just trying to publicly claim what you think the current liability is is not somehow going to affect procurement which is, in most of these cases, many years away and with a much more expanded scope of work. But allowing the public and allowing committee to know 'okay, how much do you think a site is presently worth' would be very helpful to know just whether our current environmental liabilities on our books is at all accurate. And I suspect that it is not at all accurate; it's very, very low. Thank you, Madam Chair.