Okay. Well, look, I don't want to prolong this. Thanks, Madam Chair. I think there's actually a good number of people in the public that want to know how we can find efficiencies and ways of improving our expenditures and tracking and so on of health care costs. So I'll just leave that with the Minister and the department. I think they need to find a way to explain some of the good work that they are doing. Thanks, Madam Chair.