Thank you, Madam Chair. So the budget that you're looking at right now is an A plus B budget. It's the ENR budget plus the Lands budget. As we described previously, we need to go through this optimization period and our hope is that through business planning, we'll be able to show where there have been the changes in some of these staff members that Members are putting forward.

The changes that we're seeing right now are due to the fact that there are some sunsets of positions, and there are new positions fire- related from supplementary funding for the fire program that have come into play. That's why you're seeing the change in the numbers. I'm happy to get into more detail when we get to those parts of the main estimates. Thank you, Madam Chair.