Thank you, Madam Chair. So if I recall, there are estimates and ranges built in to the business case that depend upon what the market may be doing at any one time. I don't, in front of me, have whether it's above or below 11 cents.

Madam Chair, if I might just -- and I am conscious of time, but if I might just venture, I think if the MOU and steering committee partners can make a decision on the routing and then be able to say here is the project. The challenge we are in is we don't quite have the project and that's where the planning of the money that's being requested is to get to that point where we can come forward and say, here's the project. I fully agree that when you can say here is the project, that should be then part of fulsome debate here before the final big dollars are actually agreed to. I'll stop so the Member can ask me one more. Thank you.