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This is from the 20th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I was worried you forgot about me, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what I'll do is I'll recognize them as a group. First off, I'll recognize the team of PSAC, the UNW, and certainly the overall package of the supporting and striking workers who came to grace the Assembly, and I want to appreciate and recognize lastly their respectful efforts both outside the efforts advocating for the cause and their certainly respectful efforts in the gallery watching our proceedings. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Frame Lake.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to recognize the two pages representing Frame Lake today, Emery Moffatt and NAME. Thanks for your service, guys.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Frame Lake. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Monfwi.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize and welcome, congratulate Mary Teya and her daughter Annie and who I've known for many years. So I want to welcome them. And I would like to welcome back the interpreters. And it's also good to see Ms. Nadli up there, so I would like to welcome her too as well. So thank you.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Monfwi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Range Lake.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize a page from Range Lake, name. Thank you very much for your work today. Thank you.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Range Lake. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Acknowledgements. Oral questions. Member from the Sahtu.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
Oral Questions

October 17th, 2024

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, following up on my statement here earlier today, my questions are to the Minister of Finance. I feel we have discussed this situation at length and are now comfortable to address for Norman Wells' high, high cost of living and fuel.

My first question: Will the Minister of Finance agree to cover the air fuel transportation costs to Norman Wells? Mahsi.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. Minister of Finance.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first, I do want to acknowledge we've had a lot of conversations, and I'm grateful for the MLA from the Sahtu. He is in our ears all the time, and it brings the reality of the people on the ground to what can sometimes seem far away when you're not in the moment of it, brought that voice to Ottawa last week as well. And I'm grateful that he was there to do that.

Mr. Speaker, the fuel resupply to the Sahtu is through Imperial Oil. The fuel services division supplies the other Sahtu communities. So figuring out exactly whether we use public dollars to subsidize Imperial Oil's delivery of fuel is a tricky question. Am I to pay the contractor on the ground or Imperial Oil? Or how exactly are we to determine what they are doing and ensuring that there is no profits being made off of that if we're using public dollars. So I have committed to the Member, and I'm going to continue to say that here, we need to find some solutions. The potential impacts to residents, to the government, to services, to this community are too great to not find a solution. I just don't have that solution here today beyond some of the programs that have already been put out. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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George Nerysoo

George Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thanks to our Minister for that reply. With her legal background, I'm quite somewhat comfortable on the word "commitment".

My second question to the Minister of Finance also is will the Minister support a codeveloped draft agreement to pay vendors in sponsorship with the town of Norman Wells? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I certainly appreciate creative solutions. So I certainly can say as I, you know, indicated or implied in my last response, the Member for the Sahtu, myself, and other Members of Cabinet met with federal officials last week in Ottawa to address this very issue. Multiple departments were represented from the federal government, putting to them that we're going to need some supports that given this crisis, the impact that it's having across government, given the impacts of low water across government on a number of fronts, we are stretched. But we've put this to a large number of those departments. They are actively working to it. They've responded already today with some information to acknowledge and summarize where they're at, and we've also had some conversations with Imperial Oil. As I've said, this is their resupply. They did not get all their fuel in over the winter road. Obviously, it's a bit unexpected to have no barges go in, but certainly fuel services was able to get all of our fuel in. So I'm looking for exactly the kind of solution the Member's mentioning, something that we can, you know, look to the private sector and ask them what they're prepared to contribute to this community that they've been in for 40 years and also recognizing that government does play a role in terms of filling gaps but noting that it's public dollars, and we want to be making sure that we're using those public dollars effectively and to support the community and the residents there. Thank you.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Finance. Final supplementary. Member from the Sahtu.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thanks to the Minister for that response. Here I'm feeling more and more satisfied and comfortable however I can't really say that for the many people out there in the community.

My third question to the same Minister is the Minister exhausting all possibilities for a cost shared model with the Government of Canada and Imperial Oil themself? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And that certainly flows well. I'd like to say that we are -- I'm cognizant of us saying we're working on something and us committing to finding a solution doesn't fill the fuel tank of anyone in the Sahtu this week. I'm conscious of that, Mr. Speaker. I believe we are. As I've said, I've spoken with Imperial Oil myself and Minister Cleveland just this morning. We've spoken with Members in the federal public service. A variety of departments are involved. We have follow-ups happening at our department levels. So I do believe that we are pushing this issue. It came upon a little faster than perhaps we were expecting in terms of the timing of when Imperial has decided to start to fly in fuel, which is resulting in the higher costs. So we need to action this quickly. I appreciate the Member's diligence on this. I do want to, again, reiterate that we recognize that something's going to have to be done and we want to work with the Member and the communities to find some solutions. Thank you.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Finance. Final supplementary. Member from the Sahtu.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My last question to the Minister here, and I feel this is a very large, multimillion-dollar situation, and I don't feel comfortable in asking four questions on behalf of the Sahtu, but I'm going to ask my last one with some extra reserves for tomorrow. Will the Minister agree that this is a crisis emergency situation? Mahsi.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, if the residents of the Sahtu are facing fuel bills that result in them being unable to fill their fuel tanks even as they're working full-time, that is going to be a crisis. It's going to be a crisis the minute somebody can't fill their fuel bills, something like their house fuel is up -- or freezes up. They're literally people are unable to stay in their homes. So, yes, I mean, in that sense, Mr. Speaker, it absolutely is a crisis. It's how we respond, how quickly we can respond, and doing so in a way that actually allows people to continue to live, work, reside, be in the Sahtu. Mr. Speaker, we need to find some short-term capacity solutions to make sure that the programs that we have already, seniors home heating subsidies, income assistance programs, the relief program for barges for the barge resupplies that have been put in place, that those are working. Let's see if they can work even better. Let's see what's going to come of that as these fuel prices are coming in. And if they're not, well, Mr. Speaker, then it's a crisis for that community and the government's role here is to make sure that we can be there to support them. Thank you.

Oral Question 299-20(1): Norman Wells Crisis Support
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Finance. Oral questions. Member from Monfwi.

Oral Question 300-20(1): Education Outcomes
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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to last year's early childhood development instrument, EDI, vulnerable children have challenges in one or more of the five areas of development listed in the survey. Can the Minister identify which of these areas of development are ECE's greatest priorities for small communities? Thank you.

Oral Question 300-20(1): Education Outcomes
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Monfwi. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Oral Question 300-20(1): Education Outcomes
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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment is really looking at supporting children for increased education outcomes, especially in small communities and across the territory, from a wholistic sense. And so that's everything from ensuring that we are doing certifications for early learning and childhood operators, so our daycare and day home operators, and ensuring they have the supports they need when they're supporting our children from zero to age 4. Implementing the BC curriculum, and so that is our school aged children, from there. And even pieces like implementing and continuing to evolve and grow our school-based mental health and wellness program. And so there's multiple instruments at play here. We are at a time of transition within the education system of the Northwest Territories. But I absolutely hear the Member, and I appreciate her bringing education to the floor of this House repetitively. We need to have this conversation here on the importance of education in our communities and in our homes. So thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, she didn't answer my questions. There was physical and well-being, social competence, emotional maturity, language, numbers, and etcetera. But anyways, I will go on to a second question.

Can the Minister explain why twice as many students are listed as vulnerable for small communities when compared to Yellowknife? Thank you.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd love the opportunity to sit down and discuss in great lengths and details why the differences exist for small communities. There's often been differences that exist between our cities, our regional centres, and our small communities, and the efforts that are at play here in order to increase the equity between them. It exists in the programs that I have laid out here and in the increased supports. So one of those increased supports as well is affording training to classroom assistants to ensure that in small communities the people who are on the ground that are supporting students have the training and the supports that they need to be able to turn around and afford those to students to increase the education outcomes that we're seeing across the territory. Thank you.