This is page numbers of the Hansard for the 20th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

Question 311-20(1): Humanitarian State of Emergency in Norman Wells
Oral Questions

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Declaring a local state of emergency or state of emergency doesn't guarantee us federal funding. My counterpart, Minister Sajjan, Minister of public safety, is not here. And I have spoken to him recently as yesterday in regards to the issue in Norman Wells. We have had discussions on this. Unfortunately, this type of emergency does not fall under the federal regulations or the federal disaster -- federal assistance arrangement. So we are continuing dialogue. And the Minister has committed to reaching out to his counterparts to see if there's any other solutions for the community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 311-20(1): Humanitarian State of Emergency in Norman Wells
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thanks to the Minister for that reply. Would the Minister provide a briefing or backup documents specific to the state and the discussion happening between his office or this government and the federal government and provide that to my office and the mayor of Norman Wells? Thank you.

Question 311-20(1): Humanitarian State of Emergency in Norman Wells
Oral Questions

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm more than happy to share any correspondence I've had with the Minister. I'm also willing to sit down with the Minister, give him a briefing on what discussions our department's had with the community, and also any of my federal counterparts. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 311-20(1): Humanitarian State of Emergency in Norman Wells
Oral Questions

The Acting Speaker

The Acting Speaker Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Final supplementary. Member from the Sahtu.

Question 311-20(1): Humanitarian State of Emergency in Norman Wells
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thanks to the Minister. That information to the leaders would be beneficial.

Now for the public residents, will the Minister support a press release on the state of emergency and the actions taken and future actions to be taken? Mahsi.

Question 311-20(1): Humanitarian State of Emergency in Norman Wells
Oral Questions

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have an issue with releasing any information on the work we've been doing. I think we've been pretty open and transparent right now with everything we've been doing, so I'm more than committed to work on a press release that we could use, both as the MLA for the Sahtu and the department, to share with the residents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 311-20(1): Humanitarian State of Emergency in Norman Wells
Oral Questions

The Acting Speaker

The Acting Speaker Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Deputy Premier elaborate on the plan for the temporary on-the-land healing camp that EIA staff spoke of with the CBC earlier this week? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

The Acting Speaker

The Acting Speaker Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister of EIA.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with the encampment that took place in Yellowknife this summer, and continuing to now, there was an opportunity to engage directly with the community of individuals relying on that for sheltering, and it gave an opportunity for EIA to identify a cohort of folks who are looking for an opportunity to be in a more transitional type of shelter. And so it's with that in mind that -- and in a lot of discussions with the NGO community here who supports folks who are underhoused that they were able to identify an opportunity to use this facility that is outside of Yellowknife, for up to approximately 30 people, provide some limited programming out there. I do want to clarify it's not a healing camp in the way that we might sometimes think of it. It's a much shorter timeframe than that. But it will be offering some programming and be a facility that can at least be on the road towards a transitional type of opportunity for people. Thank you.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you. In terms of the encampment and its residents, I want to note that NGOs really stepped up to the plate with possible solutions. So aside from this camp that the deputy Premier just spoke of, what, if any, rental options have been pursued with NGOs in absence of any secured federal dollars to date? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the NGOs have been extremely valuable partners. Indeed, the camp that I mentioned earlier as a transitional opportunity wouldn't have arisen and wouldn't be possible without NGOs coming forward and making themselves and their skills available. So there's been a lot of discussions and a fairly exhaustive look at different options here in Yellowknife. It involved not only the NGO community and their facilities, at least one of which is able, with some additional funding, to expand their beds, but also looking at local developers, you know, hotels, large scale landlords, small scale landlords, all -- even territorial parks. So there's been a real comprehensive look at the different assets, but also a look at whether or not those assets would truly be appropriate and serve the needs from a person-centered approach for the people that are requiring supports and assistance in their housing right now. So with that said, it really was an opportunity to look at what's here, to try to be efficient with what's here, and to keep in mind that NGOs, while they're being at the table, can't be expected to step up without some more supports and investment in them. So without, you know, significant new dollars coming in, that was part of the discussion around what could be done with the camp and then also sort of a medium-term solution and longer term solution. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So I caught the words people-centered approach in that response, and that's really good to hear. I'll probably have more to speak about that in the days to come. But as the deputy Premier knows, the folks who are in the encampment do need wraparound services. And that is something that we are limited in our actions right now.

What preliminary actions, then, does EIA see as crucial to address the core need for effective transitional housing in Yellowknife, our regional centres, and small communities? Thanks, Mr. Speaker.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is certainly not an easy one, and I want to acknowledge that from the get-go, that the efforts to deal with what became a crisis situation this summer interrupts the ability to plan for the future. And we're well aware that we need to get out of the cycle of responding to crisis in order to actually plan in a careful way to deliver the services we need.

Working towards a place where integrated case management which has become integrated service delivery can be expanded, expanded out of Yellowknife and, in fact, even expanded within Yellowknife, those will provide the opportunities to, again, be person-centered, to be delivering transitional housing in a way that responds to the needs of those who need it and to engage with communities so that when communities are being brought in to an expansion of integrated service delivery, it's with solutions that the communities are asking for and in a way that the communities are ready and with what they need rather than having supports or programs given to them that might not actually meet the needs of their underhoused population. So that focus on integrated service delivery and doing it in line with the ongoing community work, that's where this is starting from. Thank you.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

The Acting Speaker

The Acting Speaker Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Great Slave for your final supplementary.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I think the Minister has anticipated what I wanted to say next. So in the Homelessness Strategy, the goal of establishing functional zero of homelessness says that in less than two years that there will be goals set for each community to reduce homelessness. That was a year ago. That gives us one more year on the timetable. So what is the GNWT seeing right now that they want to take steps in the next three years left of this Assembly to help us reach functional zero? Thanks, Mr. Speaker.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And it is similar in some ways to what I had just responded to, that functional zero for each community will be set by each community not for each community. In other words, it's identifying what population is able to find some form of appropriate housing appropriate to where they are at and meeting a person where they are which may mean that there's often going to remain some number of people within a community who are effectively without formal shelter or may be transitioning between shelter. But functional zero ensures that everyone has a place for where they're at in whatever their journey might be. But, again, that does have to happen with communities. So that engagement is -- I understand is underway, and I certainly can commit to providing a more detailed timeline -- I don't have that here, but a more detailed timeline to the extent that we have it and, again, just knowing that that may shift based upon the needs of communities. But we can certainly provide a more detailed timeline from our perspective, and I'll commit to getting that to the Member. Thank you.

Question 312-20(1): Transitional Housing Options and Supports
Oral Questions

The Acting Speaker

The Acting Speaker Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Next on my list is the Member from Yellowknife North.

Question 313-20(1): Climate Targets and Net-Zero Carbon Emissions
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Infrastructure. So given this government's commitments to strive towards a net-zero climate target by 2050, what plans are underway for this government to commit to a net-zero power system by 2035 in order for our power corporation to benefit from the federal clean electricity investment tax credit? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 313-20(1): Climate Targets and Net-Zero Carbon Emissions
Oral Questions

The Acting Speaker

The Acting Speaker Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister of Infrastructure.

Question 313-20(1): Climate Targets and Net-Zero Carbon Emissions
Oral Questions

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm quite pleased to talk about the clean energy investment tax credit because it is an interesting thing that there's an opportunity here for the North, for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation, to be seeking this tax credit except that we have to make a nonbinding commitment to be on net-zero.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to make that commitment. I'm happy to simply make the commitment, but it certainly is going to be pretty challenging for the Northwest Territories or, frankly, probably any part of the non-connected to the North American energy grid communities, the three territories, to reach that. But we could certainly make the commitment if that's what it takes to unlock a little bit of tax credit funding.

Obviously, getting there, Mr. Speaker, is going to take significant investment. We certainly have the opportunity to look at Taltson facility, whether or not it would be operational by 2035 would certainly bring 70 percent of our population onto clean energy. The challenges will be different in communities that are more isolated, through the Sahtu and the Beaufort Delta. And certainly what would it take at that point? Well, Mr. Speaker, at that point, we're going to be looking at probably new technologies, different technologies, and working with Indigenous partners through those regions as to what opportunities they see for investment as well. Thank you.

Question 313-20(1): Climate Targets and Net-Zero Carbon Emissions
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So given that the vast majority of our emissions come from transportation and industry, what does the Minister believe are the key opportunities to introduce clean energy into the NWT transportation sector, particularly the long-haul trucking and the heavy equipment? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 313-20(1): Climate Targets and Net-Zero Carbon Emissions
Oral Questions

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this certainly is a more difficult area to decarbonize effectively, particularly long-haul trucking. Some of the more heavy equipment machinery used in mine sites, for instance, might be looking to electrify, and there's certainly some efforts to do that underway. Elsewhere, again, challenges in terms of the climate here in the North do impact the battery capacity. One of the more promising opportunities would be in renewable diesel. Once again, though, Mr. Speaker, the way that this has unfolded through Canadian approaches thus far, there's not a strong market for renewable disease that is Arctic grade. I am happy to say that we are looking at this again and reexamining whether there's some opportunities to help incentivize that market or bring about some of that market here to the North. We would need a supply, and we would need it to be at an affordable price point that doesn't overly displace the fiscal capacity. But that would certainly be part of the modeling that we need to undertake to reach a net-zero. Thank you.

Question 313-20(1): Climate Targets and Net-Zero Carbon Emissions
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So on the subject of clean fuels, one of the key federal funding opportunities for clean fuels is the Indigenous clean fuels fund. So what conversations are underway with Indigenous governments regarding those funding opportunities through the Indigenous clean fuels fund? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 313-20(1): Climate Targets and Net-Zero Carbon Emissions
Oral Questions

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, let me say I would say not enough conversations. I hope there's more attention paid to these opportunities. It would be expectational to see this kind of funding flow to Indigenous governments here within the Northwest Territories. I know I've mentioned it in passing at Council of Leaders of meetings and in opportunities, for example sitting with colleagues at the Taltson steering committee, and department officials certainly do point their counterparts and colleagues to the 2Y2 Indigenous single window funding portal that exists with the federal government. But, again, any opportunity to raise their profile of this more here in the North, this is a chance to bring money into the North and a chance to bring about economic reconciliation and putting some of those dollars and power into the hands of Indigenous governments. Thank you.