This is page numbers of the Hansard for the 20th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

Member's Statement 352-20(1): Fiscal Debt
Members' Statements

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, when I entered this building for the first time in 2003, the debt wall of the territorial government was $300 million. Since then, it's raised 600 percent, Mr. Speaker. Every Assembly that's shown up time and time again has always shown up with their wants and needs, but then now is no different. But at the same time they've always talked about how they want to live within their means. I've yet to see that after successive governments. Yes, enthusiasm can be contagious, a contagious dream, but all I've seen is this so-called live within our means is a chronic failure. Then in May, some hope might have come when we heard the delirious excitement from the finance Minister about the latest projection of the world's biggest territorial surplus on record, $294 million. What happened? Oh my goodness, Mr. Speaker.

You know, it was all about paying debts, paying capital fully, hopes and dreams abound, Mr. Speaker. But to my surprise -- and I'll frankly say I can't believe I'm still surprised from time to time on some of these issues -- late last week we get an e-mail, practically it's like sliding a letter under our door, waving the white flag and saying we're broke again, we're heading to Ottawa because we need more money. Yet another deja-vu of the Oliver Twist story, Mr. Speaker. It begs the question what happened to the money? What happened to consultation with this side of the House? Does the Cabinet even need us? Well, they went to Ottawa without us; I mean, clearly they see beyond us. You know, Mr. Speaker, where is the proof that they've talked to us and said hey, can we work through things? Consultation with Members late night sending an e-mail is not consultation, Mr. Speaker.

Now, of course, the finance Minister and the Premier will say well, this is an operational issue, not a political issue. Perhaps if we're talking about office furniture and how you paint your walls. But, Mr. Speaker, when we're saddling the youth of the Northwest Territories a generational debt, it is a political discussion, Mr. Speaker.

So I always been reminded that my Cabinet will be there when they need me hence they're now asking us to suck it up. We can't afford this finance Minister any longer, Mr. Speaker. Five years of this type of growth, it was a billion dollars of debt while when she entered office, who knows where it'll stop when she leaves?

Mr. Speaker, we need to have a conversation about maybe -- and I stress maybe -- we should do a Cabinet shuffle because this type of moving forward is only going to bless the youth with a debt they will never be able to service. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 352-20(1): Fiscal Debt
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Members' statements.

Member's Statement 353-20(1): Harold Cook Celebration of Life
Members' Statements

October 21st, 2024

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Good afternoon, colleagues: Today, I would like to celebrate the life of Harold George Cook. He was born on September 9th, 1949, in Fort Smith to Eddy Sr. and Mary Cook. He was one of ten children in their family. He was also known as Cookie.
He was a student at Grollier Hall for many years. He played a lot of sports - hockey, cross-country skiing, softball, to name a few. He skied against some of the best in Canada, the United States, and in Europe. He was a world-class athlete. Sports and workshops are how I got to meet Harold and enjoy his friendship throughout the years. Once you became his friend, you were friends for life. He would remember the smallest things you spoke about, your family, and what was important in your life even if it was months since the last time you spoke. He was truly about your friendship.

His family spoke about how Harold loved his sobriety, his adopted family, traditional values, and healing drum songs. He had a quiet demeanor but at times showed his humour. If you had the opportunity to have him tell you a story, he always had a serious look but there was always a glint of mischief in eyes.
And let's not forget his love for two-step dancing, jigging, drum dancing, and even like Zorba the Greek.

During his celebration of life, a number of people spoke about him and the impacts he had on their lives. I have included stories from Mr. Paul Andrews, Mr. Raymond Yakeleya, and Ms. Natasha Delany at the end of my speech. I would like them deemed as read and printed in Hansard.

On June 25th, 2024, he passed away. His family and friends are going to miss him. It is very hard to say goodbye to an amazing person. We were lucky to have him in our lives. The family would like to thank everyone for their condolences and for coming out to say their goodbyes. He is now in the land of his ancestors, elders, and friends. He will be sadly missed.


From Paul Andrew:
Comedian, trickster, athlete XC skier, hockey player, politician, multi-language Speaker...
My favorite story about Cookie... he said he was in Tijuana, Mexico. He noticed a Mexican selling blankets. Harold decided to buy one and began to negotiate. The Mexican was not lowering his price... so he said to the seller, "Senor, do know where I am from?" The Mexican said, "No, senor". Harold said, "I am from far away in northern Canada. It's cold, my people are oppressed, poor and starving." At the time Harold was pretty big... easily over two hundred pounds. He said the Mexican looked at me and said, "Senor?" He said, I said "Yes". "For a poor starving Indian, you're awfully fat."
He loved to tell stories... and he had a few. He played hockey for the Lethbridge Sugar Kings, the University of Alaska and in Sweden. He skied against some of the best in Canada, United States and in Europe. In other words, he was a world class athlete.
He has a family in Sweden. Although he says he lost touch with them... he was pretty sad when he spoke about his time in Scandinavia. He spoke Swedish pretty well... well enough to translate to talk to some Edmonton Oilers when they were in Yellowknife.

He also served as Vice-President of the NWT Metis Association in the early 70s.
Cookie was a man of many talents but the one word that captures Cook the best is survivor! I met him almost 60 years ago when were both at the notorious Grollier Hall in Inuvik.
He, like many of us was abused physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually... abuse that left him an angry, bitter, young man. Like many, he tried to find solutions in the bottle... abuse severs relationship with oneself, others and the Creator... it puts you in a very lonely, isolated and ostracized place... Harold often spoke of the lonely places alcohol took him.
Then one day he quit and the real Cookie was back again... in August, Cookie would have been sober 47 years. He laced his skates and started playing the love of his life again, hockey. He waxed his skis and glided smoothly over the trails again. He started to jig and drum dance again but mostly he became an advocate for Former Students, especially those who attended Grollier Hall... he tried his best to help victims of crime, especially sexual abuse because he had been there... like many of us he struggled with relationships but giving up was never an option. He was my inspiration for putting the plug in the jug. He enjoyed a good story and even a bigger laugh... Harold Cook was my friend!


From Raymond Yakeleya:
Harold was a short man, but a giant amongst us as he accomplished things we could not imagine in his lifetime. He was a Groller Hall sexual abuse survivor and spoke loud and clear on the tragic conditions which many family and friends found themselves after this was disclosed with the Roman Catholic Church who offered no help for survivors and families caught in this situation of suicide and death... a very hard time for us all. Harold commented on this to me as we know now the RC Church was always interested in our money...
That is the hard truth to deal with but we will get through it as we have always done so. Harold was a great athlete, a hockey player and cross-country skier... he played hockey at Grollier Hall, went on to University of Alaska and then Division II in Sweden where he learned to speak Swedish, married and had two daughters. He was also a Member of the TEST team and an Olympian who competed for Canada at 1972 Olympics in Sapporo, Japan in 1972. Quite an accomplishment!!!
He told me funny and humorous stories of his journey, always with humour! His greatest accomplishment was sobriety after struggling with alcoholism and showed that it can be beaten... if you put your mind to it.
He taught me that everything is possible and never gave up advocating for Grollier Hall sex abuse survivors and their families, and spoke often about support for them in their healing journey.

We are together to wish Harold a Time of Peace and Joy, as he enters the land of the ancestors, elders and friends knowing we will see each other again in the afterlife... I am thankful that he can have peace and offer prayers for this. Mahsi.


From Natasha Delany:
Harold Cook was someone that many of us in the sobriety world look up to. Especially us that are Indigenous. I remember him telling me one time that I had the gift of beauty, and to not waste it. That I could use this gift to help the younger generations and to keep being a role model.

I also remember him going out of his way to support other Indigenous men in sobriety when they were going to court, no matter what he was doing he would drop everything and be there for them.

He never missed an opportunity to go to his 84 St. Meetings and spread his words and encouragement of hope. Many may not have understood him, but Corey and I had deep respect for him, as I know so many respected him as well. I'll never forget his smile, the best smile I've ever known. Please keep Harold in your prayers as he journeys home.

Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Range Lake.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm very pleased to recognize former Premier for the Northwest Territories, and my neighbour, Joe Handley and his lovely wife Theresa Handley. Thank you for being here today.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm proud to recognize my constituency assistant Sheila Nasogaluak who is joining us here in Yellowknife for the week. And I know we all say it, but she is the best.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you. Thank you, Member from Inuvik Boot Lake. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from the Sahtu.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to recognize the ex-Premier Mr. Joe Handley. And also, first time to this House here, two students there from the Colville Lake school Mason Kochon and Riley Kochon. Welcome to the House there, young fellas.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Deh Cho.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to welcome and recognize former Premier Joe Handley and his beautiful wife Theresa. And also, I would like to recognize my constituent assistant from Fort Providence Ms. Phoebe Parent. Welcome. Thank you.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to recognize Joe Handley and Theresa, his wife. Thank you for being here. And I just remembered in the early days when I was a chief, Joe was my MLA. So it was great to see you, great time to work together. Mahsi.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Although I don't see her in the House, I believe I have constituent Ariella Fox from Yellowknife Centre, and I'd like to acknowledge her officially on the record. As well as I'd like to take a brief moment, as you did, Mr. Speaker, acknowledge the Handley family. Mrs. Theresa playing hearts with her at Avens and, of course, I served with Premier Joe Handley for some good years at the House, and we did some wonderful things. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Hay River North.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, I must recognize former Premier Handley. I appreciate him being here, and I must say I have a new-found respect for the work that he has done as Premier as well as all others who have done that work. So thank you. And I also want to recognize him as the chair of the board of governors of Aurora College and thank him for that work as well. So thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Hay River North. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Acknowledgements. Member from Range Lake.

Acknowledgement 10-20(1): Joe Handley, Recipient of Symons Medal
Acknowledgements

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today, Mr. Speaker, to acknowledge former Northwest Territories Premier Joe Handley who was named one of this year's Symons Medal recipients. The Symons Medal is awarded to outstanding individuals who have made an exceptional contribution to Canadian life, and former Premier Handley has no doubt earned this honour for his decades of dedication to northern society.

Mr. Handley has had an impressive career as an educator and public servant who has worked as deputy minister for numerous departments, including the housing corporation, renewable resources, and economic development. Since his previous election to the Legislative Assembly for Weledeh, he was named finance Minister and ultimately became our 10th Premier in 2003.

I want to offer my sincere congratulations for his achievement of this historic award and wish him all the best as he continues to contribute his best efforts towards positive change and progress for our communities. We have gained much thanks from his ongoing leadership, and I am privileged to have him as a constituent of Range Lake. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Acknowledgement 10-20(1): Joe Handley, Recipient of Symons Medal
Acknowledgements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Acknowledgements. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife North.

Question 322-20(1): Housing
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Housing NWT. First, can the Minister confirm what is the current number of people on the NWT public housing waiting list? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 322-20(1): Housing
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Minister of Housing NWT.

Question 322-20(1): Housing
Oral Questions

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The current number of people on the housing waitlist is 897 applications across the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 322-20(1): Housing
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So next, can the Minister confirm whether it is expected that all of those 897 families can be housed through federal funding to Indigenous governments? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 322-20(1): Housing
Oral Questions

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Unfortunately, I don't have that information. Based on what I know to date, Indigenous governments are working on market home plans, other type of market rentals for professionals in the community. The 897 on the waiting list are looking for affordable public housing units so, unfortunately, they may not meet the criteria for market home plans. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 322-20(1): Housing
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you. And thanks to the Minister for that. Can the Minister confirm that a major barrier to increasing our public housing stock, at least up to this point, has been resistance to the idea of increasing the transfer of resources for O and M from the GNWT to Housing NWT? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.