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Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Morse. Minister Wawzonek.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the materials -- I mean, the information that we're providing in general wouldn't have the procurement detail in it. So the procurement detail traditionally, and across a lot of different governments, not only ours, they don't want to put the number to which then bidders would simply bid to to meet that budget. But, you know, again, I -- if there's information that we're speaking to here, it typically wouldn't be considered confidential. If the question is about making our budget documents bigger, then I can certainly take that back and have a look at it. Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Morse.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you. Yeah, I guess to get into some more specific questions, I would encourage the Minister -- I mean, I prefer making information public as much as possible. It helps the public do their own scrutiny. Even if they don't read it, the information's out there. And I think that substantiations are important for helping them understand why Members may make the decisions the way they make, why Members may not oppose projects, but it's a little bit hard to say when all you have is the name of the project and nothing more to go on. So I would always encourage transparency where possible and when there isn't really a good reason not to be transparent. And I can just say for the substantiations that I've been able to see for all of these projects, there's nothing in there that need to be confidential. It's all this is why the government's spending this money. And I dare even say the substantiations are quite good.

So to get into a specific question, on the NWT courts modernization part, I note -- well, actually -- sorry, Mr. Chair. This is exactly what I -- this is the problem I'm talking about. I was about to start asking questions about the substantiation and I'm now just realizing, of course, that substantiation is confidential. So I got to find a way to ask the question what the substantiation is. So can I get a description of the substantiation of the NWT courts modernization, please, before I ask questions about it. Thanks.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Morse. Minister Wawzonek.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And -- doesn't help. Mr. Chair, I was -- I'm looking at a blank page. Can I turn that to the deputy minister, please.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister. Deputy minister McKay.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. So the substantiation for this project is to replace the aging EOL courts management system, so that's called FACTS, and that manages day-to-day operations but it's -- it's fairly old and needs to be replaced so we need to modernize it with an electronic system that will allow for efiling and digitizing of court-related paperwork. So it'll basically modernize and make the system more user friendly. Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, deputy minister McKay. We'll go back to the Member from Frame Lake.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Mr. Chair. And, yeah, if I could get a bit elaboration. The part that I was kind of interested in is alignment with government priorities. So is there substantiation speaking to that specific item? Thanks.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Member from Frame Lake. Minister Wawzonek.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, there is. And I appreciate the question it doesn't necessarily line up from the title of the project what it is. But by having a modernization project of this nature, we're actually being -- making it easier for residents to access government services. It provides the ability to make services more accessible to all residents across the entire territory. It helps us decentralize those services, gives an opportunity to greater decentralize the services but also greater decentralize potentially positions associated with those services. These are obviously economic drivers. They are also obviously public safety drivers. And certainly to the extent that the justice system needs to conduct itself quickly and efficiently and in a manner that is in best keeping with best practices, that is definitely a core function of ensuring the justice system which is functioning at its best which is certainly a safety element. Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Wawzonek. Member from Frame Lake.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

That's it for this round. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member from Frame Lake. Any further questions? The Member from Great Slave.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sorry, I'm just scrolling furiously and possibly not getting somewhere where I want to get to fast enough. However could I get a substantiation for the technology service centre infrastructure ever greening, please. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member from Great Slave. Minister Wawzonek.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this is simply an amount that allows us to ensure that the existing infrastructure that we have -- technological infrastructure we have remains current. There are a number of assets that come due for support and that are -- whether that's servers, the networks, storage, telecommunications, all of which, I think -- you know, I don't want to presuppose or assume, but technology changes very quickly. It changes quickly on a government scale as well and so this provides us the ability to maintain some currency within that space by using this project budget. Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister. Back to the Member from Great Slave.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Excuse me, I'm having a little bit of a frog in my throat. It says here replacement of capital server network and storage infrastructure. In that substantiation, does the decision -- does the decision-making process that Cabinet commits to for many of its decision-making instruments apply? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member from Great Slave. Minister Wawzonek.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I mean, obviously every element of the budget does at some point come through the department of -- well, sorry, not the department of FMB but through the FMB. But this is an item that is a standing -- I guess a standing element sort of its own pot. It doesn't necessarily, quite frankly -- I mean, what we're dealing with is -- just to put some numbers to it, 7,000 different devices for all staff which, you know, 6,000 plus public servants, offices across 33 communities, some of which are on fibre, some of which are still on microwave, so an allocation of $1.95 million does -- is meant to support all of that. It's a standing item. The individual decisions are -- which computer or which office gets a new system don't necessarily come to us, but ensuring that there's a pot there available for the folks to do those operational decisions, that part is. Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Wawzonek. The Member of Great Slave.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And so I know that in the last Assembly there was a great deal of interest from the Members around how we make decisions and specifically how Cabinet makes decisions on various pieces of information before them, be it decision instruments, be it financial decisions. And so part of that conversation was climate change consideration so I'm just asking I guess, do climate change considerations occur in the substantiations of these projects? Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member of Great Slave. Minister Wawzonek.