Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Chair. So in some of my comments to the Minister of Finance yesterday, I know in our substantiations we talk about different ways that we make decision makings -- decision-making, pardon me, around the various metrics and choices that we make for selecting these items and considerations that we make about these items. There has been great conversation in previous Assemblies around the climate change considerations of these items. And so not to pick on the boat, not to make my colleague from Inuvik Boot Lake angry, it was just picked at random, I'm just curious as to why in climate change considerations for boats and trucks and other assets that run on fossil fuels the climate change considerations are none? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Debates of Oct. 24th, 2024
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Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you for the question. I think that some of the challenges, especially in the Northwest Territories and certainly based on location, is having adequate infrastructure based on the resources that are available within that area. So in the Beaufort Delta, for example, the boats that are used to deliver the programming there need to be of a certain size and ability to deliver the programs to ensure that our staff are safe as they're doing that work. And there's not really anything currently on the market that would be able to enhance the goals in the way of not using fossil fuel. So currently, a majority of our large patrol boats are all four cycles which is certainly a move forward in the way of more environmentally friendly than perhaps in the previous years when it used to be a two-ycle engine. These are far more fuel efficient, much more economical, and certainly do provide some benefits to the climate. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Kate Reid Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And arguably, when we talk about all of our assets that put out greenhouse gases, be they vehicles or buildings or whatever the case may be, I guess how one boat in Inuvik is not going to break the GHG bank, so to speak, but to see that there's no -- no impact of just any asset, I don't know if I agree with that. Maybe the Minister could speak to that. Thank you.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, I -- I mean there certainly is an impact in a contribution to the greenhouse gas total from all of this infrastructure that's on our landscape; however, I mean, like I said earlier, you know, the options of to go to other technologies are somewhat limited and, yes, much of the infrastructure that is on the capital plan is replacing existing infrastructure so it's not additions to the fleet but part of the replacement cycle. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Kate Reid Great Slave
Thank you. So I can respect that answer. I just -- I guess I'd like to hear from the Minister of Environment and Climate Change that, in fact, yes, having -- even though there aren't any other options, vehicles, all of our infrastructure that emits greenhouse gases, does impact climate change. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, I do agree with that statement. It certainly does have an impact. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Kate Reid Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well, I will take away some further comments to the Minister. Nothing further at this time.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Kieron Testart Range Lake
I'm curious now, Mr. Chair, so I'm going to ask. As the Minister is the Minister responsible for Climate Change and the government's climate change plan, and he's got officials there, is it possible to calculate the carbon emissions or carbon impact of one truck in the GNWT fleet? Thank you.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Dr. Erin Kelly
Thank you, Mr. Chair. We don't normally look at that level of granularity. I'd have to take that back. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Kieron Testart Range Lake
Would that information -- sorry, thank you, Mr. Chair. Would that information be useful to our climate change planning to -- and implementation of our strategy and our goals to reduce emissions? Thank you.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chair. That level of detail would be really hard to calculate. We take a much broader approach to how we do the calculations on the greenhouse gas emissions. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Committee Motion 45-20(1): Tabled Document 193-20(1): 2025-2026 Capital Estimates - Infrastructure - Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 24th
Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So the GNWT does calculate its fleet -- like, its combined fleet in terms of emissions; is that correct?