Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I certainly like what I'm hearing from the Minister today. This is exactly the kind of thing I hope to see. I mean, it's -- it's not lost on me that despite what the Minister is saying, I'm still hearing from people, you know, about these issues so we've got work to do in some areas. I know that there's a difference between different departments and different teams, but it's an issue that I want us to be focusing on.

Mr. Speaker, a lot of what we're talking about here is the concept of flattening hierarchy in the system. I'm wondering if that's a concept the Minister's familiar with and is something that she's looking at as the Minister for the public service, what we can do within the public service to flatten out our hierarchies, empower staff, create better efficiency in the public service, and empower our staff. Thank you.