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Glen Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, the changes were first made for this current fiscal year to the legislation last year. There's two provisions in the bill that needed to be changed. One related to the indemnity paid to Members and one related to the allowances. The change regarding the allowances was missed last year. So this will -- but what was actually -- the allowances provided to Members was based on the five-year average so this catches that. And then it also sets the MLA pay and indemnities for 2024-2025 beginning April 1st based on the five-year formula.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you, Mr. Rutland. I'm going to go back to the Member from Nunakput.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

My second question to the Member and the staff is it consistent with like collective agreements and what the CPI increase would be with collective agreements; is there consistency with that?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Good question. I'll go to Member of Yellowknife Centre.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Member. I believe if I understand it correctly, most of this is set by the independent commission and given the direction to the Assembly on that. If I need a further -- there is maybe one further comment provided by our clerk who can elaborate. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Mr. Rutland.

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Glen Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, the independent commission makes recommendations to the Legislative Assembly. The recommendation was that Members receive a CPI increase annually. Members in the 19th Legislative Assembly decided to change the legislation such that it would be a five-year average of CPI. At the time, the CPI increase would have likely resulted in about a 7 percent increase. But by doing a five-year average, it brought it down to, I believe, about 3.8. 3.34, sorry.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you, Mr. Rutland. I'm going to go back to the Member from Nunakput.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

I have no further questions, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Is there any further comments from Members? I'm going to go to Mr. -- or sorry, hang on. I want to get this right.

Member of Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I just wanted to follow up on the question asked by my colleague from Nunakput. She asks whether it aligned with the collective agreement of the public service and so I just wanted to get some clarification on that.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you for your question. I'm going to go to the Member of Yellowknife Centre.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I appreciate the question from the Member just to further clarify. It does not. This guidance has been -- this guidance is offered and given by the independent review committee and passed on to the Assembly for final direction.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

I'm going to go back to the Member of Frame Lake. No further questions? Any further comment from the MLAs, Members? I'm going to go to the Premier. Mahsi.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, the salary of MLAs is something that's been an issue in every Assembly I've been in. It's always a political issue. And part of the reason, from my understanding, that it's not tied to any sort of a negotiated contract, a collective agreement, is because we don't want our salaries -- we don't want any skin in the game when we're in those negotiations. It wouldn't make sense. I don't think it's good practice to basically be negotiating our own salaries. So I think that is the rationale for the exclusion. So, thank you.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you to the Premier for your clarification. Any further comments from the Members? I'll go to Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Not a question but a comment. It is my understanding, for further clarity on a political matter of us discussing our own salaries, that -- sorry, one of the sections is actually tied to the collective agreement. The northern allowance section copies what the public servants receive depending on their community of origin or community of work, and it is my understanding that in the past MLAs have made the decision collectively to restrain their income based on the fact that public servants were not given percentage increases. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you for your comment as well. Is there any further Members from the Assembly that have general comments? Okay, thank you. Doesn't look like there was anybody putting their hands up. Thank you.

Is the committee agreed that there are no further general comments? Committee, we'll -- thank you.

Does the committee agree to proceed to a clause by clause the review of the bills? Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay. Committee, we will defer the bill number and title until after consideration of the clauses.

Please return to page 1 of the bill. Clause 1, does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Clause 2, does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Clause 3, does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.