Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I can say, you know, probably, but that's again, as I said, not really the kind of answer I would like to give to the House or to inform the public. Our debt levels certainly are high. When we capped the capital estimates two fiscals ago, that significantly impacted the growth on the debt but then the sheer volume of impacts over this last summer has sort of undercut that otherwise positive story in that our short-term -- that was capping the total anticipated -- or projections of what we would need in terms of debt to fund capital, but then we had these huge increases unexpectedly over the summer increases the short-term. That's kind of like having like a -- you know -- yes, it's the short term that's really showing the significant growth. So I can quite easily, I think, go back and confirm that this is the single biggest number, but I just want to go back and confirm that. I know -- sorry, and I should also just remember that whenever interest rates have gone up -- and they've been high now longer than, again, the economists seem to be saying they will be. That obviously impacts us as well. Thank you.