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Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, that would certainly be in the public accounts. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Member from YK Centre.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Well, it's my understanding that some of these reconciliations and costs, in other words knowing exactly what it costs and then submission of the final portion of our application to get some money back from Canada, there will be an assessment and accounting of those costs. So is the Minister saying that it's fully been costed out -- or costed, paid for, and reconciled and submitted for the transparency of our public accounts, or is it still being worked on? I'm asking when can that -- when would that be available? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So I mean, again, certainly the public accounts do provide that type of accounting. This is -- this supplementary appropriation is really just seeking to make up the amount that we at this point have available to us knowing the actuals to date. I mean, there may well be, and I expect that there indeed probably are, still some amounts to be -- that will still be coming in to communities and then through communities to MACA from communities and community firefighting efforts up to ECC. So the total fire suppression, total firefighting budgets, and reconciliations of that, are not in front of me right now. I only have here the amounts that are with respect to the shortfall on the actuals -- or on the projected amounts known to date for fire suppression. So, again, public accounts is a good place to start. There's likely to be, I'd expect, in the course of the various reviews and efforts probably a lot more information that can also come out through that process. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from YK Centre.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

No, it's -- I don't have a further question. I've kind of asked it twice. But, really, I mean, when they're looking for more money, I mean, people do wonder where the money's going, what's it paying for, and how are we balancing it out in the bigger picture. It's not directly connected to the overall costs but it certainly -- it's like saying, you know, one part of the government isn't part of the other. So it's just -- there are a lot of people still wondering how much is it costing and how much do we keep paying. That's the -- that's ultimately the issue. So it is a comment. I'm not sure the Minister wants to comment; she doesn't have to. It's not implied that she has to. But, you know, you just -- people are concerned about how much keeps going out to pay for this. And it's not that they don't think that the bills are real, but I think it's more a question of like oh my goodness, how expensive does this keep getting?. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Does the Minister want to respond?

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I mean, again, Mr. Chair, the supplementary estimate process is one where we do main estimates as one part of the budgeting cycle, and then when there are additional unforeseen costs that arise throughout the fiscal year you would come back to the House for a supplementary appropriation. And I would think that the example of a bad fire season is often used as an example of when the government comes forward to say that they need an additional appropriation. This is exactly that situation. That's why the government came back in August, and that's why we've come back again now bringing forward the projected expenditures at the first opportunity to put before the Assembly what the expected costs of the fire suppression season were. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Is there any further questions from Members? I'm going to go to from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like it if the Minister or her witnesses could provide a little bit more detail on what additional funding the Bilateral Water Management Agreement needed with Alberta-Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So this is money that is coming in under the requirement -- or to fulfill the requirements under the Alberta-Northwest Territories Bilateral Water Management Agreement. It's a cost shared agreement between the two, and it's meant to provide water management support for the Mackenzie River Basin. That's an agreement that was signed back in 2015. It commits both governments to cooperate in terms of the management of water resources, facilitate the monitoring of the water. Obviously, it moves across the border fluidly, and reporting of upstream effects that may occur, if there's been any sort of pollution. And this is an amount that's being appropriated because -- as an offset from the Government of Alberta. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to the Minister. I'm curious if this additional expense had anything to do with the -- let's call it a dustup with Alberta around oil sands in the last fiscal year? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, it doesn't. That was a good example of the bilateral agreement. Perhaps initially not quite an action as intended but then brought back into the front of mind and being utilized thereafter hopefully as intended. No, this sup appropriation reflects the fact that money can be carried over, and in this point there's some unspent funding that's being -- that gets held over but can be brought forward, and that's the situation that we find ourselves in, and that money is being brought forward. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to back to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Nothing further.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Any further questions? I'll go to the Member from Sahtu.

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Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I wanted to ask the Minister the questions on the cross-border water monitoring. I see later on in the department requests that we're going to be dealing with the marine training society -- or the Marine Transportation Services on additional funds. This is a result of the low waters that we're probably running into a deficit with that MTS service.

Is there discussions as part of the bilateral on the monitoring of the Mackenzie River Water Basin and making it known during these bilateral discussions that your management of the water levels, particularly in the site C Bennett Dam area on the release of water is really affecting the downstream services of this government and communities? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm happy to commit and take that back to my colleague. The details of the agreement itself and whether or not it involves site C or the extent to which it does, I don't have that detail and I don't know that my team here does either. But I expect that the Minister responsible would probably be happy to follow up, and we can add that in our follow-up letters. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from the Sahtu.