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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. I don't think we have any metrics on that. I'm not sure if the Member's looking for -- if I can get some explanation of what's meant by metrics. Is it pages per drafter or pages produced per year or things like that? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go back to the Member from Great Slave to clarify.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'm sorry if I was not clear. I guess I'm trying to say is do we have any way of measuring the expected workload vis-a-vis the amount of drafters that we have and allocating work appropriately? I'm concerned that while the line item for the legislation division has increased since the 2022-2023 actuals, it hasn't increased since last year. And so I'm just wondering -- yeah, on that idea, like are we -- do we have enough drafters, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Yes, thank you for that clarification. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. Yes, we do run into issues with -- I would say the biggest bottleneck is with the French translation. We are required to translate all of our legislation into French. And to be a French legal drafter, you need to be fluent in French, obviously, and also a trained lawyer and also one of the very few trained lawyers who is interested in drafting legislation. And so it's a very narrow subset of lawyers who are available for that, and they are in high demand. And so when there's slow -- issues with the drafting, that is usually where we find them. There are also other issues with, you know, legislation division, they can only draft when departments provide them with the proper information and sometimes during the drafting process, there will -- the drafters will discover that there's a policy issue that needs to be dealt with and that can slow the process down because it has to go back to the department, they have to look at that policy situation and make a decision. So there's a number of different factors, but. I'll leave it at that. Thank you.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go back to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to the Minister for that. I just -- yeah, the reason I'm highlighting this is because I'm not sure it ever has been highlighted before, and I know I have always been very keen and interested in how quickly the mechanisms of legislation churn out of each Assembly, and I think that there is quite a lot of interest in this side of the House to get things going as soon as possible. So I guess more of a comment than a question, Mr. Chair, is to let the Minister and the department know that we would be super keen to have more French language drafters if that's what it takes. Thank you.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Minister, want to respond?

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. I'm not sure if we're fully staffed in that area. I think we're often down a drafter and so more positions wouldn't necessarily solve the issue. We just need the people, I think. Thank you.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave. No further questions I could see, I'm going to continue on. Please turn to page 322. Justice, services to government, operations expenditures summary, 2024-2025 Main Estimates, $14,336,000. Does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Moving on to services to the public on page 325, with information items on page 327. Are there any questions? Seeing none. Sorry. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sorry, one quick second. I have it on a screen. There's a lot of things going on on my desk right now.

So with regards to the line item the rental office, so, Mr. Chair, can the Minister please explain as to why the concerns raised in the chief rental officer's annual reports merit a review of the Residential Tenancies Act as discussed in the business plan? Thank you.

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The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. I believe the review was happening regardless. We have our regular reviews. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go back to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, you know, I kind of took that as an interest on my own accord to go back and look at the annual reports because that was mentioned, I think, in the business plan explicitly. So if you go back to at least the '18, '19 annual report and every one since, the chief rental officer notes that tenants make many inquiries under section 30 of the Act but do not follow through due to likely onerous processes to complete the work of an application. So I would think that additional support for tenants could help alleviate these issues. And so I'd like to ask the Minister if there are any concerns that he knows related to staffing levels at the rental office. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go the Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

No, I'm not aware of current staffing levels at the rental office. I know that a few years back -- quite a few years back now, I was still an MLA at that point, though -- it was difficult staffing those positions and it was significantly impacting landlords, especially with small landlords, but my constituents, the ones I deal with, and we were seeing quite long delays in dealing with issues. But I don't believe there's any staffing issues at this point. And I just appointed a few people, actually, in that office. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go back to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So can the Minister please clarify if that is the case, if there are more people, why in 2023-2024 revised and in 2024-2025 it's static and, indeed, lower than the 2022-2023 actuals, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

I'd like to hand it to Mr. Bancroft. Thank you

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the director.

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James Bancroft

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The budget is remaining constant in the rental office. The positions that the Minister is referring to are appointments to the chief rental officer and the deputy chief rental officer, which there is two. One chief rental officer. Thank you, Mr. Chair.