Okay, thank you. That's interesting, it kind of counters my understanding. I was under the impression that with relation to employment opportunities, ITI was playing a role. I understand there's some kind of coordination committee related to it that ITI is partnering in. So I wanted to ask about that, how it's going, how the department sees itself in that role with relation to the fact that, you know, this department also has a division that's managing economic diversification and maximizing opportunities there. So I was hoping to ask questions about that. So maybe the department can clarify a little bit, like the role that they are playing in this system, particularly related to capturing the economic benefits from this activity.
Debates of June 10th, 2024
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Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, yes, ITI/ECE does play a role along with ECC. ECC is the role. And for kind of the operational way that that looks within ITI, I would like to pass it to the deputy minister. Thank you.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Pamela Strand
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So further to what the Minister spoke about, every kind of project we put together, the partners that need to be on it, so specifically on Giant Mine, although it is an ECC lead, ITI and ECE participate on the socio-economic advisory board, but it's multi-stakeholder. So it has IGs, Canada, GNWT departments, and the city of Yellowknife. Other projects, like the remediation economy for example, there's a project that has federal SPIDE funding, and that one is led by CIRNAC. They're working with the college and ECE on, you know, doing training, specifically for example, for the Deline Great Bear Lake opportunity and Norman Wells. And then we have our socio-economic agreements where, yes, we track employment and we work with ECE and HSS on those. So all a it different but, yeah, you're right, we have our hands on, you know, ensuring that the resource projects, you know, do hire locally and we do the best to coordinate how we achieve that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So we are starting to get to the bottom of it here. And I appreciate that, that clarifying information. So now speaking to the particularly the socio-economic and the program that the deputy minister just mentioned, can she kind of describe what the department is doing to maximize benefits to Northerners from that project in particular and remediation in general.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I will pass it to the deputy minister to provide detailed information about that.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Pamela Strand
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to make sure that I understood quickly if I haven't covered that the Member would like, please let us know. But with respect to the Giant Mine remediation project, ITI did complete a procurement review of what monies were spent in northern and Indigenous NWT businesses contracted by parsons. We found that there was strong overall performance with about 65 percent of those dollars going to NWT Indigenous and NWT businesses. And that number's ranged from 56 to 76 percent overall. And largely, the dollars that are going south are southern contracts that aren't available in the North. The work we do is working with companies to right size those contracts. For example, we met with Diavik on Friday last and talked about their closure, and it's a big contract, and how can they right size and break those contracts down to make northern firms able to bid on them. And that's the work they're doing right now. We know, for example, De Beers at Gahcho Kue has been very successful at breaking down the contracts. So I hope that answered the Member's statement. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you. And, yeah, I think this is one that I want to kind of maybe follow up with the department a bit more sort of outside of the budget deliberations. I just wanted to get some questions on the floor about it. But I am interested in learning more about what the department's doing, how it's capturing the benefits. This one's important to me. But I'll leave my questions on this budget item as that for now. Thank you.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to ask about the mining incentive program. What was the subscription rate for the program last fiscal year? Thank you.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the subscription rate for the program, we have a budget of $1.5 million, and in 2022-2023 our actuals were $1.274 million. So while each year the program is fully subscribed, what ends up happening is there are monies that companies are not able to spend. Sometimes it can be due to, for example, wildfires. And they end up having to hand that money back to ITI. Thank you.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. My understanding is that -- maybe I framed it wrong, but how the applications -- or the dollar amount of applications were -- came in for the program last fiscal year, so not the actuals, but the number -- or how much money was applied for. Thank you.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Sorry, my apologies, Mr. Chair. I misunderstood the question from the Member. So the total funding request was $2.678 million. Thank you.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you. And what is the economic -- or the department's analysis of economic multipliers related to this funding? Thank you.
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th
Committee Motion 30-20(1): Deferral Motion - Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 10th