Thank you, Mr. Chair. So this is important work, and I think the Minister laid out quite clearly how it works and how it will benefit clients, in particular clients who are, I think -- don't want to stay trapped in poverty certainly or even require these levels of services. I think everyone wants to get back on their feet. So this is -- I do support integrated service delivery. I've always supported integrated service delivery. I've seen how transformative it can be, especially for those who make frequent contact with the criminal justice system. What I think is missing here are some timelines and outcomes. It's fine to say that we're going to kind of -- these are our goals, this is what's going on, we're working with -- it's being led by another department. But surely, there must be some timelines and some goals for the suite of programs that ECE offers to clients that can be measured and they can be accountable for. Is that possible? Thank you.