Okay, I'll certainly say touché on that one. But it speaks to the broader point, we should have deputy ministers on every subject -- or ADMs, sorry -- of every subject, whether it's x-ray machines and deputy minister of nursing, and like, every area we have. I just think this is a horrible waste of money. And if we want to really support these, we should be giving them to the communities to inspire community homegrown programs. People don't need another -- another, like I said, upper echelon person. They need program people on the ground. So that's my comment. If I was given an opportunity, which I'm leaning towards the clerk, I would look potentially maybe to a motion to delete if I had a chance to get one. Because I don't think this belongs here. We should be talking serious about doing real things. Thank you. I don't have the number.