Agreed.
Debates of Oct. 21st, 2025
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Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Committee, we will now consider the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment on page 8.
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2025-2026, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $2,529,000. Member for Frame Lake.
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Julian Morse Frame Lake
There you go, thank you, Madam Chair. I just quickly wanted to ask, to put it simply, why we're operating the Hay River Fish Plant, the newly opened fish plant, with a supplementary estimate. That's my first question.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. So, Madam Chair, the fish plant is now fully operational and they are continuing to see increases in catch and increases in the number of fishers. That is the good news; however, finding someone or some entity that has the capacity and skills to fully operate the plant did prove a little more challenging than what was perhaps anticipated in the Great Slave Lake fish revitalization strategy back in 2017, thereabouts, when this plant was first being conceived. So with that, what they have done as a department, as government, is entered into an agreement with the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation to operate the plant, including with it a period of transition that was meant to help try to train up some local capacity and find someone who'd be in a position to take over the plant or, in the absence of that, to be in a position to find another operator outside of the FFMC over time. That hasn't happened yet. And so for the moment, as it's coming fully to its capacity, it does still run at a bit of a deficit, and this is to support the ongoing operation and the fishers who supply it. Thank you.
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Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess you could call $2.5 million a bit of a deficit.
I guess the next question I would ask is the status of the FFMC, the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, I mean, my understanding is NWT is effectively the last participant in this beast, and I'm curious whether it makes sense to look into other options we might have for marketing, selling our excellent quality fish from the NWT, which I think is quite a higher standard than most other places and I think it could really stand to be separated from other stock. And so I'm curious if we've made any progress on kind of rebranding and redoing the way that we're marketing fish to kind of sell this as a premium product and hopefully help boost revenues and get us out of this deficit operating position. Thanks.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. And, Madam Chair, first, just one small piece of good news. It's not fully -- the $2.479 million is offset. There are some revenues that we are anticipating coming back in, so of $1.276 million, so it's not -- it's only partially -- there is still a deficit. Now, that said, the bigger question and the longer term question is to get out of a situation where we are having to continue this. I will note, Madam Chair, that a big part of that is ensuring that we are getting CFIA certified. That would allow direct marketing and direct then sales of the product that we have in the North to markets potentially worldwide. Right now, without that certification, we are left in the FFMC all on our own, as the Member has noted. But it's my understanding that the target for that is by November. And then once that certification attaches to the Northwest Territories, to the plant, then, again, that does open up the possibility of direct marketing and potentially much higher revenue for the sales. Thank you.
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Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. That's certainly good news. I think that's it for me for questions on this one. Thanks.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2025-2026, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $2,529,000. Does the committee agree?
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Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2025-2026, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, minerals and petroleum resources, not previously authorized, $342,000. Does the committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2025-2026, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, total department, not previously authorized, $2,871,000. Does the committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Committee, we will now consider the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs on page 9.
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2025-2026, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, emergency management, not previously authorized, $5,465,000. Does the committee agree?
Member for Yellowknife North.
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Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. My question is, so this item says that the costs may be offset under the Government of Canada's disaster financial assistance arrangement program. Can the Minister explain what is meant by may and what assurances we have or don't have that this money is going to be offset by the federal government? Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. So, Madam Chair, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is the entity in the Northwest Territories that can apply to the disaster financial assistance through the federal government, and there are expenses that are covered. Roughly, we find, it comes in at around 90 percent of eligible expenses, which is what is being accounted for here, but it is a fairly rigorous audit process in order to be compliant with the policy, and that comes with a fair bit of paperwork on the particular claims that MACA is putting forward. They would put those claims forward on behalf, for example, of municipal governments and as well as any losses experienced within communities or to structures, for instance. But then there has to be the auditing. So when we say may, is it because until that entirely works its course through the federal system, we don't have the final on exactly which expenses get fully reimbursed. So, again, roughly 90 percent, and we won't necessarily know for some time. My recollection of the 2014 wildfires is that the money for that was still coming in when I started in 2018, 2019, and 2020. So it takes some time sometimes to fully see the reimbursement of the costs. Thank you.
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Daniel McNeely Sahtu
Thank you, Madam Chair. My question is to the overall not previously authorized total for 5.465. If we were to do a wholistic review on each year's fire costs, we would look at the initial, as we discussed earlier on the $39 million, and apply this to that, that'll give us our total fire costs for the summer of 2025, for example. Can I get clarification on total impact and costs for the fire season? Mahsi.