Thank you, Madam Chair. And, I mean, I guess what I would say in response to that is that the difficulty is -- I'm not necessarily looking for documents per se. I don't think that staff time is necessarily best spent kind of just producing plans and reports all the time, but the problem is is that if we don't know what we're trying to achieve, it's very hard to define for the people trying to achieve it what success is going to look like and what they should be working towards. So I guess I've got to come up with some Member's statements to talk about this a bit more because -- but the bottom line is is that, you know, if we're just looking to increase post-secondary students but we don't really know what that's going to look like, how -- it's very difficult for me to understand how we have kind of a concerted plan. Or have we even gone about the work of trying to identify, you know, what are the problems that we're trying to solve, what is the -- what are the main barriers to workforce development in the territory and what do we need to do in order to kind of remove those barriers and increase the workforce and what does success look like. I do think that it's important to define that.

So maybe the Minister can or her staff can kind of help me better understand it because I think that there probably are answers to these questions out there. They don't necessarily have to take the form of a plan, but I do want to know that we know exactly -- that we have a good idea of what we're trying to achieve with any given program. And better yet, that we're even measuring the success of that program so we can determine if we're achieving it. Thank you.