Well, I think it's fair -- I'll concede it's fair you're not here to answer, nor were you here to answer for other provinces and territories. I'm curious as to the justification of the position. In other words, what are the measurables and how are they comparable to other provincial or territorial organizations. So in other words, are we doing what they do? Have we put political people there? Do we know what they're doing in a sense of why we're doing it? Because we have to know why we're doing this and what we're asking for, and that's what I'm looking for. So can I get that detail including what's the mandate of this individual. There must be some letter -- letters of patent saying, you are going to do this, you are going to deliver that. Thank you.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So the mandate is to build relationships, really. We've been working with Ottawa. We've had success with some offices, federal offices. Other federal offices, they have been more difficult to engage with and get information from. And that's important to be able to have that ability, especially when we have asks that we're bringing forward to Ottawa that we need to move along. We need to make sure that they're not falling off anyone's radar and so this is an opportunity to ensure we're pushing that. I have had a lot of -- I've had reach out from federal Ministers about this position. The envoy has had a reach-out from federal officials as well, as well as Indigenous governments, so there is already a lot of interest in this, and those relationships are being built. Even just by announcing this position, we are gaining some traction in Ottawa. Thank you.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll keep it short because the time is running out, and I'm sure other Members are eager to ask similar questions or other questions. But I would just say that one of the difficult challenges here is evidence-based and how does that translate to result and to say that while they're there to build relationships, that's impossible to measure which makes it wonder how do we know if we're getting value from this effort whatsoever. I don't mind doing business differently, and I've already said this in the House, I'm very disappointed in the Premier that he can have a Cabinet discussion with this and talk about it with Indigenous leaders but not at any time bring it to caucus. And that's the issue, bring it to caucus and talk to Members about it and say hey, this is what I'm looking at doing, this is what I'm hoping to achieve. And that's the problem. So what is the measurables of this particular job that we know that you're -- you know, we're committing more expenses to the government at a time when we don't have them, so I'd like to know how we're going to know what they're actually doing and how we can see it's being done. Thank you.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. I understand the Member's time has run out, so I'll just keep it quick that we're not committing more resources to this. I know that was a statement that was just made, but that's not accurate. Thank you.
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The Chair Richard Edjericon
Okay, thank you. Are there any other questions from Members? I'm going to go to the Member from Range Lake.
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Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm just going to follow up both with the previous lines of questions. First, on land claims, when -- or land rights negotiations. When were the negotiating mandates last revised for the GNWT's side of the table? Thank you.
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Kieron Testart Range Lake
Okay, I'm trying to do quick math. So halfway through. Is there a plan to update the current ones to reflect the priorities -- the changing priorities of this government, of the Indigenous governments, the Government of Canada potentially, and the increasingly precarious geopolitical circumstances we find ourselves in? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. And I know we're not quite in the intergovernmental Indigenous relations section yet, but I can speak to this.
So the Government of Canada has -- you know, seems to have an always evolving approach to negotiations, and I think at the same time that we're trying to figure out what that evolution means for the negotiations, the Government of Canada is trying to figure out what it means for negotiations as well, and so we are trying to understand that to help us land on mandates, so. And, you know, with changes in governments, there's also considerations that need to be taken into account, you know, what is an incoming government's willingness to engage with Indigenous governments and to try different things in negotiations, how are they going to change course, so all of those things do have to be taken into consideration. The mandates, the negotiations don't happen in a vacuum. They do happen in the real world. So those are all live considerations that the Member raised. Thank you.
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Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you. I appreciate that we might have a coming opportunity with at least a change in leadership -- or a guaranteed change in leadership at the federal table at least. Are we able to commit to new offers within -- new offers at all outstanding tables in the life of this government? Is that something the Premier is willing to do? Thank you.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. Well, I can't speak to every single table but, you know, it's very -- it could be a possibility for sure. I'm hoping to move things along in the way that they need to be moved because, you know, we're only here four years, and I do want to see movement on these. Thank you.
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Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you. That's good news to hear. Can -- is -- I'm not sure if this has been done but it certainly is something -- it's one thing to have modern treaty or a claims -- a comprehensive claims process, but some -- in many cases, treaty obligations aren't being met by the Crown and the agents of the Crown. So can the Premier speak to this or commit to an analysis of outstanding treaty obligations that the GNWT might have to its signed treaties, so not the stuff that's not done, but the stuff it has done, and take an inventory, what's outstanding and what still needs to be delivered in terms of treaty obligations to our treaty partners. Thank you.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. Maybe I could get the deputy minister to chime in on that one. Thank you.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chair. With respect to the GNWT's relationship with Indigenous governments and organizations in general, we are examining our general approach. We do think that because it's such an ever-changing environment, we need to provide updated guidance to staff at all levels across departments and agencies. And I would say that with respect to the Member's question, modern treaty partners are a specific subset of Indigenous governments and organizations that require even additional attention and care given the duty of the Crown and those relationships. So we're looking at providing guidance specific to them which would be a new development for us. Thank you, Mr. Chair.