Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. So the general approach is that the NTPC will run based on its -- run its operations based on its revenues that it gets from ratepayers but they do have the ability to take on debt, so in a sense, they do spend more than they take in, but that debt is supposed to be allocated towards capital acquisitions only so that's generally how it works. So for their operations, they have to be fully funded by ratepayers.