I suppose someone has to ask it, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the issues surrounding there -- yes, with respect to more ensuring that we have staff available to undertake that request, and I can take it back away and look again at what some of those challenges at staffing were. What we have done and continue to do, Mr. Chair, is that there are more and more services coming available for E-services. I recognize before I even turn this back over that some folks will not be able to access E-services or won't be comfortable with E-services, but that certainly is an area that is taking a lot of the pressure off of the in-person times that are available. So thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Kate Reid Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to the Minister for committing to look at it a little closer.
Mr. Chair, the Minister is right, there are lots of people who might not feel comfortable doing those services online, but I also want to recognize that I very much enjoy the ones that -- the services that you can do online for your vehicle. They're very helpful, indeed, for the folks who can use them; however, we cannot get a new driver's license online, and there are services that newcomers need to extend driver's licenses in the sense of their work visas expiring and then being put into maintenance by the federal government. So I would urge the Minister to consider those in her deliberations.
But getting to questions, I will change topics. I was very pleased when the folks from Yellowknife Airport gave a presentation to SCEDE in, I believe, the last six months or so. The revolving fund is a success story, I think by all accounts, and the surplus continues to grow. So does the Minister and her department have plans for the $52 million surplus budgeted for 2025-2026? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, there's, I know, some movement in this space with respect to a capital plan coming out of the airport in -- well, I think in just the next couple of months or next few months anyways. I'm not sure. Perhaps Mr. Loutitt may have -- or deputy minister Loutitt might have more details on whether or not or to what extent that includes the revolving fund. Thank you.
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Steve Loutitt
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So we do have a list of projects that we are undertaking under the capital program with the revolving fund. There's -- actually, I don't have them right at my fingertips, but the accumulated surplus is not as large as it does appear. A lot of it is the assets, and some of it is an accumulation of funds. So while it says that there's $37 million -- or sorry, $37 million are the assets involved with the airport, so they're not -- it's not money that can be spent on anything, but we are doing quite a few things to improve both the customer experience and the -- I guess work continues for the airport. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Kate Reid Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Chair. I was wondering if the Minister can commit to providing a more detailed breakdown to committee on the surplus and its activities that are planned. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, happy to do so. Again, that work was -- is due back this spring, and it would normally follow the process of going to committee. I'm happy to ensure that we are there as early as possible. Thank you.
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Daniel McNeely Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm looking an page 290 on the MTS revolving fund. We're going to be projecting a loss here again. Having the experiences of several years and in losses, what types of actions of recovery or reduction measures are being taken by the MTS operation? Thank you.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, Mr. Chair, there certainly has been several years of challenge in this space. There's, you know, obviously when the water levels are low, not only does it impact on the revenue that we would normally bring in but we then also wind up incurring the higher costs to ensure resupply still is completed. So a bit of a double hit in that respect.
Some of the things, though, that are happening in this space, Mr. Chair, there has been a governance review completed, and I know we've had the opportunity, as mentioned, to be in front of committee on this. It's examining what kind of structure would best help deliver the services that MTS provides, wanting to ensure that those services remain available and that even in times where there would be losses, that those essential services are provided, but also trying to see if there's a path by which we can do so that will hopefully find some efficiencies, increase the opportunity to bring in revenue. And, again, I think over the next year or that the hope is that we will over the next year see that governance -- those governance changes put into place and hopefully some resulting economic benefits. Thank you.
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Daniel McNeely Sahtu
I'm glad the department is looking at the governance review. And I would probably subject what types of downsizing measures -- is land disposition being looked at? Are you downsizing the assets, the land, the footprint, to shrink your operating costs? Is some of the redundant assets being looked at maybe on the international community as selling them off, those types of actions on reductions there? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, at this point in time I'm going to have that take that one away and just commit to getting back to the Member. But it may not be me. It might actually be as this -- as the governance changeover takes place, our hope is that as that unfolds, part of that will look at what makes the operations more efficient and, really, that might be an opportunity to do some downsizing or to change assets. But, Mr. Chair, part of the governance review is to question whether or how to have the right people there making those decisions. And I -- you know, I'm not trying to be vague, Mr. Chair, but simply just that there's going to be some changes in the next few months in this space and want to give the right latitude for those coming in to make those strategic decisions. Again, happy to come back and continue to update committee so that folks who are in the regions can provide their feedback and updates as sort of some leadership comes in and steps in and make sure that they're -- that leadership in the MTS space is continuing to be engaged with opportunities for those -- again, those who know that space well. So I think, really, it's a matter of -- well, I will just simply commit that we'll continue to come back as the leadership at MTS is confirmed and solidified. Thank you.
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Daniel McNeely Sahtu
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Thanks to the Minister for that reply. Although I really want to see this operation continue on a break-even point, I really need the barge in my areas there too but we're all subject to climate change and the impacts and implications of that action. So I look forward to the continuing governance review. Thank you.
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Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this may be a bit of a stretch. I'm not sure if this is the proper department -- in the House in my Member's statement around the new -- a new buildings standards code for the Northwest Territories or a -- not a new one, a one, because we don't have one. And I thought that I guess it is kind of a -- is delivering capital, Mr. Chair. So I don't know if the Minister or not if she has her A-Team here with her would like to maybe elaborate a little more on the -- on where we are with that and anticipating getting that work done, funded and done. Thank you, Mr. Chair.