Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to put a little bit of a spotlight on the item for conservation planning and sustainable livelihood but specifically sustainable livelihoods.

In the department's business plan, there is quite a lot of focus and a lot of measures around how we are managing the success of our community harvesting and trapping, all of these really fantastic programs that are aimed -- and according to the department's business plan -- to address the effects of trauma but, you know, also to help bolster people's connection to the land and getting out on the land.

Can the Minister please explain, then, if there's so many ways to measure the effectiveness of these programs, why the dollar amount for this line item has gone down? Thank you, Madam Chair.