Okay, thanks to the Minister for that. That's somewhere to start and continue our conversations.
I wanted to turn to a few other questions I have on this section. Can the Minister explain why under environmental protection and waste management -- so the number allocated clearly drops significantly between 2023-2024, and then last year down from $4.8 million down to about $3 million, and now we're back up to $4.1 million. Can the Minister explain why there is such big fluctuations from year to year in the amount allocated for that? Thank you, Madam Chair.