Thank you. Thank you. That's it for this part, for this section. Thank you.
Debates of March 4th, 2025
This is page numbers 1 - 42 of the Hansard for the 20th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was know.
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Daniel McNeely Sahtu
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm just looking at the business plan here and similar to what I had mentioned to the Department of Infrastructure as we conclude the budget season in preparation for the summer student employment season, would the Minister provide a summer student plan and appendix to the business plan here in the coming weeks, coming months, so that our students could have something to look forward to within this department? Thank you.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you to the Member for the question. Yeah, certainly happy to provide that information to all the Members. I think over the years, the summer student program has been a real integral part of the success of the wildfire program across the NWT. Last year, as an example, we had 40 students hired. So hopefully we have the ability to increase that number a little bit, and happy to report back to the Member. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Daniel McNeely Sahtu
Thank you, Madam Chair. No, I'm encouraged by those numbers, and we always look forward to try to do our best. But I'm glad to hear the Minister is on student summer hiring. Mahsi.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Seeing no further questions, please turn to page 88.
Environment and Climate Change, environmental management, monitoring and climate change, operations expenditure summary, 2025-2026 Main Estimates, $23,368,000. Does the committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Thank you. Moving on to policy and strategic planning, beginning on page 92 with information items on page -- are there any questions? Member for Inuvik Boot Lake.
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Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, and I'm assuming I can -- this is the proper activity to bring this up in. My questions are around some transfer of lands in the -- specifically for this one in the Inuvialuit settlement region.
I note that in the information items there is obviously the land claim implementation funding of $5.4 million, and I'm wondering if as part of that, you know, what the department is doing to make it less difficult, I guess, for Indigenous organizations, specifically in the Inuvialuit settlement region, for IRC to access lots in the communities that they can then use to build houses on. From what I understand, there's some difficulties there, and I'm wondering if the Minister can speak to that. Thank you.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the department manages and maintains the inventory of public land so that it is available for application to any party and for any purpose. The department is not able to identify which of these parcels or areas are suitable for housing so within the -- within the communities, it's a little bit difficult to predetermine, but we're certainly working toward trying to prioritize those issues. And I'll pass to the deputy minister to provide a little bit more detail. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Jenkins
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, a very important issue, and one that we are prioritizing, we've been having conversations with different communities about their land interests, and communities are starting to identify areas that they would like advanced, in particular areas they'd like to look at in terms of housing. There are a number of requirements, of course, that we are required to undertake. In terms of a transferring land, surveys, you know, having the appropriate bylaws in place, community plans and, you know, any consultation processes. But we prioritized a number of housing applications. We are working with Housing NWT in that regard, and we are trying to move this file forward. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you for that. Yeah, I mean, obviously it's difficult. Land is -- you know, in the smaller communities, and specifically in the coastal communities, you know, there's not a lot of lots there, and as we're aware of, the Indigenous governments, certainly in my region, have received a significant amount of funding to put housing in these communities, as well as the larger centres of course, but in the smaller communities as well. So it's so important that they get as streamlined as possible working with the department to ensure that they can get -- acquire some of that land that obviously is next to their borders, I guess, the communities that they're trying to develop in.
The deputy minister mentioned some of the surveying. And I know kind of to switch over to bulk land transfer as well, which I know other colleagues here, I'm sure, will speak to, but, you know, given the municipalities and the interest, again, around getting the bulk land transfer done -- and it's not the first time we've discussed that. We're talked about the administrative burden, I guess, and the cost of land surveys which, you know, for smaller hamlets and municipalities would become significant, and I'm wondering what -- you know, is there more -- you know, are we seeing enough concentrated effort, I guess, or concrete efforts to transfer the lands to municipalities so that they can use that land. So kind of what's the department doing to kind of ease that burden on them a little, maybe look at doing, whether that's drone surveys or doing a -- you know, a survey of, you know, all the land at once rather than trying to parcel it out to make it a little less expensive, and is the department willing to work with the municipalities to ensure that they get, again, this important land transfer over so they can use it for economic development, for building homes, for whatever the case may be, but certainly give it to the people that know best what to do with it. So thank you, Madam Chair.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. And thank you for the question. I think a lot of work is being done currently to engage communities to address and have them identify what their priorities are. It's certainly been raised that the surveying challenge is not only a financial challenge, but there's also a capacity challenge within the NWT to do that type of work. So as we've been moving along and working with the different communities in this regard, we have, you know, been having conversations about other potential paths forward that we could work with with the communities, and I think as you look at a lot of the smaller communities have a much larger challenge to move forward in this area than some of the larger ones. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake
Yeah, and, you know, even the larger ones. And the challenge, obviously, in the larger ones may not be as much the cost. Again, if we could do this as a -- if you look at doing it as a bulk transfer rather than look at having to take specific portions and survey it out or section it out. I mean, again, you can easily identify what is in the municipal boundaries and can be done. It can be done as one massive survey. And I think if the department would at least commit to looking at that option, and maybe providing some assistance to the municipalities to kind of help them -- help them along to get that done, it would go a long way. I know, you know, my community of Inuvik, certainly I understand there is correspondence coming through to the Minister from the municipality of Inuvik to suggest just that, to say, look, it's time with -- you know, communities have opportunities that may be federal opportunities in there. For example, I use the Inuvik satellite station facility where, you know, that land had to be transferred from the Commissioner's land to the community so then they can therefore enter into a deal with the federal government to put that station there. So, you know, it took a while, and fortunately for us, it still -- it didn't cancel the project, and we still got to do it. But things like that are happening and often happening fairly quickly and, you know, to be able to move on that land as quickly as possible. Obviously if you own it, it's much easier to do that. So I appreciate the department is live to it, and I would hope that they're going to be not just -- you know, I'd like to be proactive and not just kind of yes, I know municipalities have to bring forward the request, but to work closer with the Association of Communities and with the municipalities themselves to get this bulk land transfer. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank you to the Member for the comment. I think that that sort of goes back to my previous comment about, you know, us talking and speaking with communities about their needs and sort of what their priorities are. And part of that goes back to the consultation process that we would go through with the local Indigenous governments, the land use component of that land within municipalities still needs to be identified, so that's part of the overall conversation that we've been having as well. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake
Yes, and I appreciate that. And I appreciate it's different in every region. I appreciate some areas have settled land claims, some don't. Allocations have been made and some -- most in some areas, and some areas they haven't. So I know there are other complications but certainly happy to hear that they're working towards it. And, again, for the larger municipalities, to me it seems there should be a much easier process to at least get that portion done and focused then on the smaller ones as well. But no further -- no question there, Madam Chair, no further comments on the section. Thank you very much.