Thank you to the Member. Moving on to the Member of Great Slave.
Debates of May 27th, 2025
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Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

Kate Reid Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. In a strange turn of events, Yellowknife North has poached my questions. Thank you.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you to the Member. Any further questions?
Seeing none, Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 1, 2025-2026. Department of Health and Social Services, capital investments expenditures, administrative and support services, not previously authorized, $4,761,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, committee. Health and Social Services, health and social programs, not previously authorized, $18,589,000. Are there any questions?
Seeing none, Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 1, 2025-2026. Department of Health and Social Services, capital investments expenditures, health and social programs, not previously authorized, $18,589,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, committee. Long term and continuing care services, not previously authorized, $8,441,000. Are there any questions? To the Member of Yellowknife North.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. On this one, I'm wondering if, in particular, for those four, long term -- or no, there's three, long-term care facilities there. How many times have the funding for these projects lapsed or, you know, been pushed forward to the next year? Is this the first year that this particular funding for those three facilities is being pushed forward, or how many years have we seen this happen? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I have these projects right now broken down one by one, so, for instance, by Inuvik, by Hay River, etcetera, so I can't give a simple number. I can say these projects have -- if I'm not mistaken, all four of them been subject to delay over more than just the one fiscal year. There was -- as I -- I can recall back in just around the times of COVID, there was a change because the estimates that were done pre-COVID in terms of bed requirements were updated through and then immediately towards the end of when the COVID-19 pandemic was subsiding. That led to some changes in planning because of the changes of bed counts, if I'm not mistaken, have been updated yet again. And so here we are still trying to get a handle on what size of facility is needed as there continues to be changes in term of the kind of what the best option is to ensure that people are being given the best tools to age in place and not necessarily be in a facility. So I'd be happy to collate the information about how many times they've been moved over. I just don't -- I don't have broken down by project in front of me right now. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't necessarily need an exact number but I guess my concern is that if these projects are continually being sort of passed along to the next year, next year, and we're tieing up around $7 million in projects that are continually being bumped forward, bumped forward, is there sort of a limit on how many times we can just keep this money and bumping it forward without deciding that, okay, you know, this money's been tied up long enough, it needs to just fall off the budget and then start again when we do decide that this project is actually underway or making progress? Is there any policy or limits on how long we continue to, yeah, keep money tied up in projects that don't seem to be moving forward? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And, Mr. Chair, there absolutely is a limit. It is -- it's whether or not a project's request for carryover complies with the financial administration manual, and so that is specifically whether or not there's already a contractual obligation in place or if a department can demonstrate that there's been substantial progress on a project. And so, you know, if a project is slowly moving along, it will, in theory, meet that test -- I say in theory because it is still subject to approval by the financial management board. So all projects where departments are seeking carryovers do come individually to the financial management board and do need to be approved. So, again, obviously if they're compliant with the financial administration manual, that is sort of step one. But it doesn't necessarily change too the fact that there are known needs for long-term care facilities but wanting to ensure that when we get to the place of breaking ground and building facilities that are going to be into the tens of millions of dollars, wanting to make sure that they are obviously at the appropriate size, but I certainly take the point that we don't -- and I don't disagree that we don't want to tie up funds where they are otherwise needed clearly in the health care sector. Thank you.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, to the Member of Yellowknife North. Any further questions?
Seeing none, Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 1, 2025-2026. Department of Health and Social Services, capital investments expenditures, long term and continuing care services, not previously authorized, $8,441,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, committee. Total department not previously authorized, $31,791,000. Are there any questions?
Seeing none, Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 1, 2025-2026. Department of Health and Social Services, capital investments expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $31,791,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, committee.
We will now consider the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment on page number 14.
Infrastructure expenditures, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $689,000. Are there any questions? To the Member of Yellowknife North.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I'll try to keep these brief. But is this the final amount, then, for the Hay River fish plant? Does this signal that it will be complete, or should we expect further amounts coming forward in the future for the completion of the Hay River fish plant? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the project is in the implementation phase which is hopefully a positive word. It's been -- in fact, the plant has been substantially completed already. It is expected to be fully commissioned in this current summer. There was some modification required for some of the ice harvesting related systems and that is where the carryover, I believe, originates, and that system had to be modified and then reconstructed, so that is where the carryover came with this. The plant is otherwise, as I said, operational, and I -- it would be hopeful would be fully implemented and therefore not see any further delays or need for any further carryover on the project. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 77-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 341-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 1, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 27th