Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Regarding the fire breaks, you know, the wider the fire break and when you get rid of the topsoil, as most communities are starting to chip, using a chipper to chip away and do FireSmarting so that fire -- that chipping there, that's wood chips, and that's fuel, that adds fuel to the fire. So I don't know if that's a real good idea if the department is advising communities to do that. So even their fireguards, you know, they need to be a set standard because they will protect communities. If we're not doing anything, well we're leaving it up in the air for next fire season. We're going to have communities that will be totally lost because of all the forest that we have in the areas. And we need to be proactive and start looking at trying to mitigate these situations. And, you know, because right now what they're doing is just reactive, getting all the Caterpillars, it's all in the South Slave. Now they're making fire breaks after the fact. You know, that's -- that doesn't seem to make -- you know, to rhyme or reason. Funding is always an issue when communities are left to fend for themselves, especially in developing fire breaks that will meet an acceptable standard of protection.

Can the Minister work with all communities to develop a work plan as to the fire break needs of each community and funding requirements and present these findings to the federal government for further funding? Mahsi.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi to the Minister for that. I believe that many of the fire breaks that he speaks of are a bit -- not wide enough to prevent fires from entering the communities.

Mr. Speaker, failing to have any set standards to determine proper and safe fire breaks for communities in the Northwest Territories, will the department work to develop acceptable standards of fire breaks to protect communities? Mahsi.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and mahsi to the Minister for that answer. Has the department completed an assessment of what each community has for fire breaks and if they are currently compatible with any standards for such? Mahsi.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for ECC minister related to my Member's statement regarding fire breaks. Can the Minister advise if the department has standards and layouts to develop fire breaks to communities in the Northwest Territories? Mahsi.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, every year we are at the mercy of the Mother Nature as we face one disaster after another. One moment we have floods and then the next we have wildfires. What we know and have experienced is that these disasters are as unpredictable as to when they will strike.

Mr. Speaker, we may not prevent or predict all natural disasters, but perhaps we can be proactive to prevent most. I believe the department of ECC promotes fire breaks around communities and FireSmarting within communities.

It is shown that fire breaks around the perimeter of the community can prevent wildfires from reaching and destroying valuable infrastructure such as homes and businesses. I believe the south end of Enterprise had been widened an extra 50 to 100 feet which saved that end of the community, so it goes to show that fire breaks can quite possibly save a community. The challenge here is funding specifically aimed at creating wide enough fire breaks around the perimeter of communities. Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the ECC minister in this regard. Mahsi.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Frame Lake, that Committee report 64-19(2), Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Review of Bill 84: An Act to Amend the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act, be received and adopted by the Assembly. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Introduction

Bill 84: An Act to Amend the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act (Bill 84) received second reading on March 30, 2023, and was referred to the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment (Committee) for review. Bill 84 amends the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act which has only had minor amendments since originally coming into force.

Bill 84 will amend the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation (BDIC), which was established on April 1, 2005, and is a Crown Corporation of the Government of the Northwest Territories (GNWT). The BDIC's role is promoting and maintaining economic development and employment in the NWT. This role has both economic and social aspects. BDIC provides a range of loans, financial programs, and other services aimed at helping northern business succeed by promoting financial independence, economic development, and diversity in the northern economy. BDIC also undertakes economic development initiatives itself in the interest of job creation in small communities and diversification of the NWT economy. Committee supports these initiatives, especially as they coincide with the recommendations in our report on Supporting Northern Businesses. BDIC itself underwent through previous external reviews in 2013, 2014 and 2019. Committee noted that those reviews did not result in legislative change until this Bill was brought forward.

Bill 84 proposed the following:

• change the name of the Act to the Prosper Northwest Territories Act and will continue the BDIC as Prosper NWT (which was not part of the public engagement on the Bill or a recommendation from the two previous external reviews);

• clarify when a corporation will be considered a subsidiary of Prosper NWT for the purposes of the Act and will give the Minister the authority to modify Prosper NWT's non-financial support programs to better respond to emerging business needs;

• give Prosper NWT the power to provide NWT businesses with non-financial supports and assistance that are not part of established programs and continue to give Prosper NWT the authority to provide financial support to business enterprises and subsidiaries;

• remove the requirement in the Act for periodic reviews and streamline the requirements for audits/reviews set out in the Financial Administration Act

• clarify conflict of interest provisions under the Act as well as clarify when businesses are considered related; and

• make consequential amendments to the Financial Administration Act, the Ombud Act, and the Public Service Act

Committee Considered Public Input

Committee sought public feedback on Bill 84 with a public notice and targeted engagement letters. On May 10, 2023, Committee held a public hearing in Yellowknife to review Bill 84. At that meeting, Committee heard remarks from the Minister of Industry Tourism and Investment (ITI), and from Joyce Taylor, Chief Executive Officer of BDIC. Committee also listened to statements made by members of the public in support of both the BDIC and the proposed legislative changes.

Committee voiced concerns about the BDIC board's composition. These concerns included: vacant board positions, issues of quorum, the lack of a chairperson, extensions to board appointments, and no representation from small communities.

Committee, through correspondence with the Minister of ITI, received a copy of a competency matrix for selecting board members and then developed an amendment to Bill 84 that would help ensure the board's composition would reflect the regions and industries in the Northwest Territories.

However, after receiving a written submission expressing concerns about BDIC's proposed name change and a lack of accountability, Committee had further concerns about the board and the recent brand audit which had prompted BDIC to change their name.

Committee attempted several times to acquire the brand audit report from the Minister and BDIC itself without success. The report was finally provided to Committee following the preparation of a draft notice to compel the production of the information. When the document was provided, Committee could find very little information that actually supported the name change and requested additional information which was supplied.

Committee Cannot Endorse the Gnwt Approach at This Time

Committee is of the view that while there is considerable benefit to passing Bill 84 as drafted with the amendment concerning the BDIC board composition. These changes also reflect the recommendations brought forward in the two previous external reviews.

However, concerns remain that both the Committee and the public have not been provided with enough information about the name change and brand audit to show that BDIC's approach to rebranding at this time is reasonable. Committee notes that the rebranding and name change were not part of the public engagement process that was undertaken to develop Bill 84. Committee believes better collaboration and engagement to access and provide input into the BDIC's rebranding efforts would have allowed for a stronger Bill.

Recommendation 1: Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment recommends that the Business Development and Investment Corporation publicly release the rebranding audit and related information on a name change as part of a broader public engagement on rebranding and a possible name change.

With the lack of public information about the BDIC's rebranding efforts, Committee explored the possibility of drafting motions to move that all name-change clauses be removed from Bill 84. However, after consideration this was thought too onerous. Ultimately, the delays during the review process and the lack of transparency informed Committee's decision to report Bill 84 to the Legislative Assembly as not ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole.

Committee is mindful that there is little time left in the 19th Assembly to allow for public engagement on changing the name of the BDIC. Committee also recognizes that the development of planned strategic direction such as rebranding the corporation is likely the most important duty the BDIC board can undertake. Regarding the current need for further board appointments, Committee encourages the Minister to make new board appointees to fill gaps after the upcoming election.

Recommendation 2: Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment recommends that the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment work the Business Development and Investment Corporation to introduce a Bill early in the life of the next Assembly to respond to the recommendations from the previous external reviews and public engagement on rebranding and a name change.

Conclusion

On July 25, 2023, Committee held a clause-by-clause review.vi Based on Committee's concerns about changing the name of the BDIC, the need for public accountability, and transparency stated above, Committee passed a motion to report Bill 84 to the Legislative Assembly as not ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole.

Typically, Committee includes a recommendation in each report requesting a response from government within 120 days. The recommendation is then moved as a motion in the House and Cabinet is required to respond. However, since the 19th Legislative Assembly will dissolve in less than 120 days, Committee requests that the government provide a public response to this report at the earliest opportunity.

This concludes Standing Committee's review of Bill 84: An Act to Amend the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act.

Mr. Speaker, your Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment is pleased to provide its Report on Review of Bill 84: An Act to Amend the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act.

And, Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Frame Lake, that Committee report 64-19(2), Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Review of Bill 84: An Act to Amend the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act, be deemed read and printed in Hansard in its entirety. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Frame Lake, that Committee report 63-19(2), Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Review of Bill 78: Waste Reduction and Resource Recovery Act, be received and adopted by the Assembly. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.