Debates of Oct. 2nd, 1992

This is page numbers 1291 - 1340 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Implementation Plan
Reconstruction Of Highway #3 To Yellowknife
Member's Statement Regarding C.b.c. Commentary On Charlottetown Accord
Contributions Of Mackenzie Delta Residents
Government's Response To Proposed Airline Merger
Hon. J. Arvaluk's Visit To Sahtu
T.f.n. Land Claim Ratification
T.f.n. Ratification Committee Tours
T.f.n. Ratification Committee Tour
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Question O913-12(2): Negotiations On Block Funding Agreement
Question O914-12(2): Recognition Of Metis As Distinct, Aboriginal People
Question O915-12(2): Economic Plan For Yellowknife
Question O916-12(2): Shortage Of Supplies For H.a.p. Owners
Question O917-12(2): Use Of Humane Traps
Question O918-12(2): Planning Strategy For Regional Councils
Question O919-12(2): Travel By Court Circuit
Question O920-12(2): Strategy For Social Housing
Question O921-12(2): Department Of Education Human Resource Plan
Question O922-12(2): Cost For Travel To Appear In Court
Item 8: Replies To Opening Address
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Adopt Recommendation No. 86
To Adopt Recommendation No. 87
To Adopt Recommendation No. 88
To Adopt Recommendation No. 89
To Adopt Recommendation No. 90
To Adopt Recommendation No. 91
To Adopt Recommendation No. 92
To Adopt Recommendation No. 93
To Adopt Recommendation No. 97
To Adopt Recommendation No. 94
To Adopt Recommendation No. 95
To Adopt Recommendation No. 96
To Adopt Recommendation No. 82
To Adopt Recommendation No. 83
To Adopt Recommendation No. 84
To Adopt Recommendation No. 85
To Adopt Recommendation No. 29
To Adopt Recommendation No. 30
To Adopt Recommendation No. 68
To Adopt Recommendation No. 69
To Adopt Recommendation No. 70
To Adopt Recommendation No. 31
To Adopt Recommendation No. 33
To Adopt Recommendation No. 34
To Adopt Recommendation No. 35
To Receive Response Of Review Of 1992-93 Main Estimates Within 120 Days
Bill 33: Appropriation Act, 1992-93
Committee Report 20-12(2): Interim Report No. 2 Of The Special Committee On Health And Social Services
To Adopt Recommendation From Committee Report 20-12(2)
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Bill 33: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1992-93
Bill 34: Supplementary Appropriation Act, 1992-93
Bill 34-12(2): Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1992-93
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To Amend The Schedule To Bill 34
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Bill 34: Supplementary Appropriation Act No. 2, 1992-93
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Madam Government Leader.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, we can provide the Member with the terms and conditions, under this cultural component, that this program was financed under, so that there is a better understanding of how the particular centre fits into that criteria.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Museums and heritage, special warrants, $150,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Library services, special warrants, $95,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Total department, special warrants, $245,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Justice capital. Corrections, not previously authorized, $549,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $549,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Public works capital. Buildings and works, special warrants, $459,000. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. At the Standing Committee on Finance, we have seen an awful lot of items related to the installation of individual boilers, and heating plants, in the G.N.W.T. buildings in Iqaluit. We are just wondering if there was ever a cost benefits study on the merits of dismantling the system that was in operation there?

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Madam Government Leader.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, yes, this has been dealt with, ad nauseam, over the number of years that I have been a Member of this Legislative Assembly, what we are going to do with the high temperature, the hot water system, in Iqaluit. Even though the $2 million capital expenditure was incurred, the O and M, yearly saving is close to $2 million, so the return on O and M, off balance, is what we have spent on it. In the long-term, it was felt this change far outweighed the ongoing expense that this government was paying.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

I am not sure if I got an answer on whether, or not, there was a study done, but why do we need a special warrant. As we have just heard, we have been getting items on this, ad nauseam. Why could we not predict more accurately how much it was going to cost, and deal with it on a one, two, or three time basis, instead of continually have this item come back to us?

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Madam Government Leader.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I do not know how much more detail Mr. Voytilla can give you, but, if you do not mind, I would like him to try, once again, to deal with this. My understanding is that it was difficult to finally come to a conclusion on what would be done, because there were several actors in the community who were involved, and the government as well. So, there were a lot of difficulties in finally trying to come to a conclusion.

A similar situation existed in Norman Wells, where we went through a great deal of time, discussion, meetings, trying to get people together, trying to figure out who was going to take over what responsibility. I would think that, if you do not mind, I would have Mr. Voytilla try to be a little more detailed in this response.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Mr. Voytilla.

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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I cannot provide a lot more background to the Member, with respect to why the cost estimate was out by this amount, we could certainly get the detail on that. The reason it was a special warrant requirement, though, in our understanding, it was an existing contractual obligation that we were obligated to pay.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Buildings and works. Special warrants, $459,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Richard Nerysoo

Thank you. Total department, special warrants, $459,000. Agreed?