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Further Return To Question O906-12(2): Consultation With Home Owners Regarding Flood Damages
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Nerysoo on September 30, 1992, regarding consultation with Aklavik homeowners regarding flood damages.

During the flood in Aklavik in June 1992, the Regional Emergency Coordinating Committee was mobilized. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is the Government department mandated to coordinate emergency response and assistance.

The Department of Public Works provided support to this committee in several ways. One of the tasks during this period was to assist M.A.C.A. and the hamlet to carry out post-flood damage assessments. Following the instructions of the emergency coordinator, which was the regional superintendent of M.A.C.A., D.P.W. worked directly with Aklavik's senior administrative officer, and obtained a list of properties that were damaged by the flood.

Residents of Aklavik were encouraged by the hamlet to report to the hamlet any property damages that occurred during the flood. Based on the hamlet's list of people that had flood damage, the D.P.W. Area Maintenance Officer and the Settlement Maintenance Supervisor visited these people to determine the extent of their damages. D.P.W. then prepared a Flood Damage Assessment Report which included cost estimates of the damages. D.P.W. sent this report to the Superintendent of M.A.C.A. on July 2 for their review with the hamlet. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question O906-12(2): Consultation With Home Owners Regarding Flood Damages
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question O853-12(2): Increase Of G.n.w.t. Aboriginal Employment
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I have two returns. One is in response to a question asked by Mr. Zoe. I hope he is listening to this.

---Laughter It was a question regarding the increase of G.N.W.T. aboriginal employment. The Department of Health has a staff of Human Resource Planning Officers, who are working on a long-term strategic plan for increasing the number of aboriginal people within our territorial health administration. I have also assigned a Human Resource Officer from the Department of Personnel to provide support and assistance to the Department of Health.

Return To Question O868-12(2): Authority Responsible For Delivery Of Legal Documents To Board Of Inquiry
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

The second return is in response to a question asked by Mrs. Jeannie Marie-Jewell on September 28, 1992, I know she is listening. This is with regard to authority responsible for delivery of legal documents to the board of inquiry. With regard to the Member's question pertaining to a proceeding before a board of inquiry established under the Medical Profession Act, this independent board does have independent legal counsel being provided through government funding.

A notice of the hearing is required under the Act, and must state the substance of the allegations. It is not an appropriate task for the board's independent legal counsel to draft and forward this notice of the hearing for service. For that reason, the board's legal counsel asked legal counsel to the Department of Health and Health Boards to do so. As you know, the Department of Health's legal counsel is a lawyer with the Department of Justice.

That is why legal counsel from the Department of Justice initiated the service of this one document, the only document which has been served to date. This ensures that the board does not have advance notice of the allegations before the hearing. At the hearing, parties have the opportunity to be present, including the Doctor, the board, counsel to the board, counsel to the doctor, and counsel to present evidence of the allegations. Counsel presenting the evidence of the allegations is generally a lawyer assigned by the Department of Justice, and will be, in this case. Thank you.

Return To Question O868-12(2): Authority Responsible For Delivery Of Legal Documents To Board Of Inquiry
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Mr. Whitford.

Return To Question O880-12(2): Surveys For Relocation Of Lake Harbour Airstrip
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to oral question asked by Ms. Mike on September 29, 1992, concerning the relocation of the Lake Harbour airstrip.

On Tuesday, September 29, the Member from Baffin Central asked me if the Department of Transportation has done any studies to consider alternate locations for the Lake Harbour airport.

Mr. Speaker, in 1989, the department commissioned a study by the consulting firm of J.L. Richards and Associates Ltd., of Ottawa, to examine possible sites for a new airport in Lake Harbour. The study examined six alternate locations and recommended a site about three kilometres west of the community near Water Lake.

The Water Lake site would accommodate a 1,000 metre, that is a 3,000 foot, runway properly aligned for the prevailing winds in the area. Furthermore, the site is open for aircraft approaches and fee of the large hills which interfere with the approaches to the existing airport.

For infrastructure planning purposes, the department has accepted the conclusion of the 1989 Lake Harbour Land Development Study, that the Water Lake site is the preferred location for a new airport.

However, this is a very expensive project. The Department estimates that the cost of the airport's construction would come to approximately $14 million. By comparison, the final cost of the new airport in Paulatuk will be about $4.2 million, and the major improvements planned for the Pelly Bay airport are expected to cost about $3 million.

Given that Lake Harbour has an airport adequate for the community's air traffic, and that the airport meets Transport Canada's standards for V.F.R. certification, the department has deferred the Water Lake airport project until it has first brought all of its community airports serving isolated off-highway communities up to Transport Canada's licensing standards. Thank you.

Return To Question O880-12(2): Surveys For Relocation Of Lake Harbour Airstrip
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Mr. Patterson.

Return To Question O731-12(20: Number Of Doctors From Saskatchewan
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to an oral question asked by Ms. Marie-Jewell on September 10. Mr. Speaker, on September 10, 1992, the honourable Member from Thebacha sought confirmation on the number of Saskatchewan doctors involved in the review of medical services, at the Fort Smith Health Centre.

With a knowledge of the size of the facility, and the services provided, no surgery or anaesthesia, and only low-risk obstetrics, the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons drew upon its extensive experience in conducting such reviews, and selected two physicians to complete the review.

No written change was made to the terms of reference to state that two physicians, rather than four or five, would conduct a review. This decision to reduce the team to two members was made in advance, solely by the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons, and communicated to the health centre more than three weeks before the review. No objection was made by the administration board, or medical staff.

The number of physician hours the Saskatchewan college used to perform the review is consistent with the estimate of the number of physician hours quoted to the health centre by the Alberta College of Physicians and Surgeons. In the view of the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons to have had four or five physicians perform the review would have been unnecessary and very costly to the health centre.

The Executive Director of the Fort Smith Health Centre acted on the motion of the board of management of the Fort Smith Health Centre to have the view conducted by the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons. While it was not explicitly stated in the minutes of the meeting it was implied that the Executive Director should initiate the drafting of the terms of reference.

The medical staff and the board's legal counsel had an opportunity to review the terms of reference before they were provided to the Saskatchewan college as final. Each member of the board was given a copy of the final terms of reference. Thank you.

Return To Question O731-12(20: Number Of Doctors From Saskatchewan
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Mr. Allooloo.

Further Return To Question 907-12(2): Discontinuing Use Of Leg Hold Traps
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Antoine on September 30, 1992 regarding discontinuing use of leg hold traps.

Present statistics show that between 74-80 percent of the wild fur taken in Canada is sold in Europe. Without this market, there will be no fur industry.

The European economic community recently passed legislation that will come into effect on January 1, 1995. At that time, it will be illegal to import fur from any jurisdiction that still allows the use of the leg hold trap for any of the thirteen species. They are: beaver, coyote, lynx, raccoon, fisher, marten, otter, wolf, bobcat, muskrat, badger, mink, and Russian sable.

Originally, this legislation was to come into effect in 1992. However, because of successful lobbying by the Fur Institute of Canada, Indigenous Survival International, Members of our government, and many others, the European economic community agreed to delay this legislation for three years.

By changing the way our trappers trap we will be ready to keep our share in the European market after 1995. The change over to quick kill traps is a small price to pay to keep trapping alive in the Northwest Territories.

In 1988, knowing of the European Economic Community legislation, all Canadian wildlife Ministers agreed to implement 12 changes recommended by the Fur Institute of Canada to keep trapping a viable lifestyle for all Canadians. Our government decided to phase in those 12 recommendations over four years. Other governments have also been introducing these changes.

We chose to delay the requirement for quick kill traps for small fur bearing animals until the third year of our four year plan to change trapping regulations. This allowed us time to inform our trappers and show them how to use new traps. Throughout this time, trap exchange workshops have been offered throughout the western territories. To date over 30,000 quick kill traps have been exchanged and 1,600 trappers have attended workshops.

As well, we have publicly advertised our intention to require to use quick kill traps for small fur bearers for the past three years.

The new legislation came into effect on October 1, 1992 on the use of leg hold traps for small fur bearing animals. The regulation states, "while hunting fur bearing animals, no person shall use a trap on land, other than a quick kill trap, box or cage, for beaver, fisher, marten, mink, muskrat, skunk, squirrel, weasel, or wolverine."

The use of the leg hold trap will still be legal in drowning sets for aquatic species, and for large fur bearers like fox, wolf and lynx.

Next year, we will introduce the last change which is that all first time trappers will need to take a trapper training course.

During a live phone-in program held by C.B.C. radio on September 30, 80 percent of the trappers that called in were in favour of the new legislation and supported the use of quick kill trapping systems.

The department's regional staff will continue to assist trappers with the change over. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 907-12(2): Discontinuing Use Of Leg Hold Traps
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question O877-12(2): Transfer Of Social Assistance Responsibility
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I have a late arrival here. This is in response to a question asked by Mr. Antoine on September 29, 1992 in regard to transfer of social assistance responsibility.

As indicated by the honourable Member, Dennis Patterson, in his reply to the Member's earlier questions on the same topic, the Ministry of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs will coordinate the government's response to requests from Fort Liard for the transfer of social assistance responsibility.

Mr. Patterson advises me that he has approved the band's request for funding to participate in the transfer process. Officials from the Ministry of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs, will be in contact with the Fort Liard Band within the next two weeks to discuss the proposal and to arrange for a time to meet to begin discussing the proposal. Thank you.

Return To Question O877-12(2): Transfer Of Social Assistance Responsibility
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Mr. Allooloo.

Further Return To Question 807-12(2): Amount Expended On Flood Damage
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Nerysoo on September 17, 1992.

There were no expenditures on flood damage incurred in the communities referred to the by honourable Member. However, the 1992 spring breakup in the western Arctic led to the activation of emergency response procedures in several communities in designated flood risk areas on the Hay, Liard and Mackenzie Rivers to prepare for potential flooding or the evacuation of residents.

As a part of these activations, the Department of Social Services expended $1,466.22 in Hay River and the Hay River Reserve. No G.N.W.T. departments incurred expenses in Fort Liard during the flood alert period. The Town of Hay River expended $55,834 in flood preparations in 1992 and some of these expenditures may have been eligible for cost-sharing under the flood control assistance policy. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 807-12(2): Amount Expended On Flood Damage
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Pudlat.

Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

October 1st, 1992

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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a long question, so when my time is up, just let me know.

My question is to the Minister of Justice. I am concerned about the problems experienced in the eastern Arctic with respect to solvent abuse. Recently, the Hamlet Council in Cape Dorset discussed the fact that alcohol, and solvents, are both problems.

Although the Liquor Act gives us some weight to control the amount of liquor shipped to the community, we have no way to effectively control the availability of solvents.

In the past, the idea has been raised that the Government of the Northwest Territories should develop legislation to control the use of solvents, and better counselling services should be developed for solvent abusers.

This idea has been put forward in the past by Pauktuutit and by several alcohol and drug projects. Can the Minister of Justice indicate whether his department would be able to introduce legislation that creates stiffer penalties for abusers and for people who supply solvents to abusers?

One of the main problems we encounter is that solvent abusers and their families resist going for counselling. Is the Minister willing to consider introducing legislation that would allow a judge or a justice of the peace to make an order forcing the solvent abusers to receive counselling by experts?

This has been a concern for a long time, so I wanted to bring this up. Often solvent abusers cannot change their ...

Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

After you have actually asked a question, then it is not appropriate to carry on with a preamble. I think you have made yourself very clear, and Minister of Justice, would you like to respond?

Return To Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the Member addresses an area of social concern that is in the responsibility of health in some instances, and social services, but those parts that he read to me, I can try to respond to.

The fact is, as far as I know, as a lay person, I do not know of how we can legislate availability of commercial products and restrict the sale of commercial products because certain members of the community are abusing the use of them? There are ways in which, I think, communities, like Cape Dorset, can, by itself, find ways to restrict the availability at a local level. I do not know that we can find legislation that can do that.

I believe the best recourse is for the community to discuss with the appropriate government officials how they could negotiate some agreement with the outlets at the community level to restrict the availability of these products.

As far as whether or not we can find legislation that would make it mandatory for solvent abusers to take counselling, again, I can ask the department to prove me wrong, but it seems to me that I do not know how we can force anyone to take counselling, to make it mandatory for anyone to take counselling because these are things that only work if the individual in question is willing to participate. If they are willing to admit they have a problem, and that they want to work as much as they can towards addressing the source of the problem.

So, that is the response that I have. I understand that it is a major concern for the Member, but I am not certain that passing legislation would be an answer, aside from the fact that the problem would still be there. It would just make it a crime, perhaps, an offence, to continue to do so. Perhaps, then, our best approach would be to look at ways in which we could respond to the Member's concerns by discussing with officials who may be able to advise the community on what they can do themselves to get some handle on the nature of the problem. To seek, and identify the source of the problem that gives rise to young people, and adults abusing their bodies, and their minds through the use of solvents. Thank you.

Return To Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral question, supplementary, Mr. Pudlat.

Supplementary To Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am just trying to give some ideas to the government as to what should be done because this is a big concern in the communities, and this was discussed also during the Pauktuutit Conferences. I know that this is a concern all over the Northwest Territories, not only in Cape Dorset.

If legislation cannot be made, I think there should be ways of dealing with these problems to try to stop the people from abusing solvents. I know that all over Canada there have been deaths with regard to solvent abuse. Will this be dealt with in the future? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I think that what I will do is take note of the Member's concerns, the ones that he raised in his first question, and in the supplementary, and ask the Minister of Social Services, and Health, to assist me in getting a more detailed response to the Member at a later date. Thank you.

Return To Question 912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Question O912-12(2): Legislation On Solvent Abuse
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mr. Dent.

Question O913-12(2): Negotiations On Block Funding Agreement
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Earlier this session, I was advised by the former Minister that the department was working towards concluding negotiations with at least one municipality for a block funding agreement for the next year. I was wondering if the Minister could advise me as to what progress has been made toward this end?

Question O913-12(2): Negotiations On Block Funding Agreement
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Allooloo.