Mr. Chairman, the document is a document that provides the process and some idea on how to get some of the funding so that we can do some of the things the honourable Member is speaking about. It seems to me that we are taking a lot of time on a document that is trying to reshape the government. It is really a process to provide redirection of some of the control and responsibility to the people that are affected by our programs and delivery system. I believe we are attempting to do that by answering the question that a lot of people have in front of them; that is, it is difficult to get access to the government. I believe it can be fixed very quickly and nicely. We can bring the decision-making to where people want it to be made and, at the same time, provide consolidation so that we can save some dollars and redirect these dollars to economic development and other methods. If we keep on going the way we are and do nothing, we can keep spending on exactly what we have with no changes. We can go out and run around in the community, but our resources are limited as to how we can direct that. That is all we are trying to do. There is a preoccupation on government because Members want to talk about it, and I do not think this should be disallowed as a negative thing.
The honourable Member seems to be telling us that people want to discuss this document because we are preoccupied with government. Right now, we have to understand -- and we all know -- that we are too heavily dependent on government. People's concern is that the government does not do the job they want to be done for them. How do we correct this? This is really what we are trying to do.