Mr. Chairman, first of all I believe that a lot of these questions get answered when you go into an implementation of how we are going to achieve these goals. I believe, to my understanding, there is a very strong desire in communities where it does not take place right now, where the community selling is very well received by co-ops and individuals. I do not see that changing at all. Mainly our concern is the facility for storage. I think the idea is to set up storage facilities in such a way that anyone can draw from them, including the Power Corporation. The actual community gas pumps or petroleum delivery stay the same. The intention is not to take away from the privatization that is there already; it was to make better use of the tank farms because they are, as you know, an expensive commodity.
When we went into this -- certainly from my point of view we always seem to ad hoc it. We would do a little bit here and do a little bit there. We do not grab a hold of the whole problem. This government has never advocated massive layoff but these are generally the fears that have been created because of what we are trying to do; but we have never advocated that.
In looking at the turnover rate, particularly in health professionals and teachers, the turnover rate, particularly in the communities, is very large. I do not think that is going to stop. What is the question there? Why are teachers not aboriginal people? I believe that if we bring this decision closer to home, maybe the people in the community could see where the education system fits into a requirement for people to be involved, in directing how we are going to move people from a grade level to a professional level.
I really understand what is being said. I think any time we try to do something different or try to attack a problem, there are always fears. I think whether we manifest those fears or whether we try to go into it in a positive light and say, "Look, all the concerns and issues about civil servants -- what they are, how many there are, where they are, bringing our own people into the professional stream -- those things are not going to go away until we address the fundamental issue of how we are going to do it." It is true, we have not been terribly successful in meeting the stated feeling at a community level for people to feel that they want to be a teacher, they want to be a nurse, they want to be a doctor, they want to be a financial wizard within their community, because all those are positions which are available. The difficulty we are going to have is to have the proper climate and environment so that people want to take those responsibilities on and feel that they are just as good as anyone else and they can do it. I think it is an attitude that we have to create.
Why have we not been successful in the past? A lot of it comes down to community support. How does a community find meaning? I guess the more communities that are involved, I think, we will get a better result at the end, I agree. Certainly those comments about whether we are going to take something away from privatization, that is not the intent at all.