This is page numbers 383 - 409 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Further Return To Question O311-12(2): Review Of Gwich'in Final Agreement In New Wildlife Conservation Act
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my understanding, yes.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mr. Koe.

Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the March 5 issue of the Inuvik Drum there are four requests for proposals from the Department of Social Services. One is a for contract home for young offenders; another one is to provide open custody facilities for bush camps. Both close Friday, March 13. In the proposals there are clauses where the contractor shall obtain and maintain comprehensive general liability insurance coverage in the amount of not less than two million dollars.

My question to the Minister of Social Services is how does he expect contractors to get this type of insurance when very few insurance firms in the North can provide that type of coverage for people looking after young offenders.

Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Social Services, Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is quite correct that it is a concern with some operators that they are not able to purchase that type of insurance and that volume, and that the insurance companies in the Inuvik Region perhaps are a little reluctant to provide that level of coverage. However, it is not an impediment to anyone submitting a proposal, Mr. Speaker, because I think the problem was looked at by the department some time ago, and an alternative has been suggested to them. They have the information necessary that will help any potential bidders to obtain the necessary insurance through another firm.

Return To Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If that is the case then why was that information not provided in the ads? If you read the ads it is fairly clear what is required and nowhere does it say that this is negotiable or other alternatives can be discussed or negotiated.

Supplementary To Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not sure how much detail they can put in an ad of that size. However, people who have already been involved with this type of an operation have been duly informed, and I am sure that if anyone has a concern all they have to do is contact our Department of Social Services in the Inuvik Region and they will be given the information they might need.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not sure who they would talk to there because you do not have a superintendent and the acting superintendent is on leave. I was advised that the clerks were phoned to put these ads in the paper and that is how these ads were put in. The deadline is tomorrow and you have to phone Yellowknife office to get copies of the proposals, and there it says alternative methods may be looked at. So I am not sure who they would contact in Inuvik today.

My question is, if this is the case that operators can negotiate and get alternate coverage, why were they not told or why was this not publicized?

Supplementary To Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is not an item that can be negotiated. Mr. Speaker, the requirement for insurance is mandatory. It is mandated by the Department of Finance and it is for the protection of the people who are using such facilities. What I was suggesting is that information on how to obtain insurance through an insurance firm, elsewhere than Inuvik, was what we would be able to provide. An insurance scheme other than what is being provided in the local area is what is being provided. It is not something that we are going to negotiate with. It is required for the protection of the operators and the clientele. We will provide information, and it should not be a detriment to anybody wanting to submit a proposal; the fact that Inuvik insurance companies are not able to provide that insurance.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Last supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I think the Minister missed my question. In prior contracts the need for insurance was waived by the department, and the department, or government, covered this insurance in their general insurance coverage. To my knowledge no firms in the Northwest Territories, and I will have to confirm that, can provide this coverage, so they have to go south. It is very difficult to find a firm that will provide coverage for a bush camp operation to look after young offenders. The cost is significant.

My question is, with this type of call for proposals and insurance costs that you are asking for insurance coverage, the cost of care goes up significantly. Is the department willing to bear that cost?

Supplementary To Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I thought I had covered the concerns that the Member had with contractors trying to obtain insurance that was not available in the area, for projects that require certain liability insurance. There seems to be other areas of concern that I am not able to address. I thought I had conveyed to him that any contractor that was having a problem was able to contact our department, and that we would give this information. I think part of his question was, why was this not in the advertisement. I had not realized it was a problem, but if it is any assurance I will advise the department that perhaps in future tenders of this nature, this information is to be included.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mr. Pudluk.

Question O313-12(2): Conservation Plan For Peary Caribou
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Ludy Pudluk High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to Renewable Resources. We all know the Peary caribou have to be conserved. We have to work together to conserve the Peary caribou. Has your department come up with a plan? As for the Baffin caribou, there are only 14,000, and this is for the three communities of Broughton Island, Resolute Bay and Grise Fiord. The caribou are far away and the people have to hunt the caribou by plane. These 14,000 caribou are not enough.

Last summer the people of Resolute asked me if they can go and hunt the caribou in another area, and they had to pay $9000 to go, and 14,000 caribou is not enough, Can your department look into this and look into the funding; if they can erase the funding. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question O313-12(2): Conservation Plan For Peary Caribou
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Renewable Resources, Mr. Ningark.

Question O313-12(2): Conservation Plan For Peary Caribou
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is his first question on this matter; this is the first time I am aware of this. I would like to tell the Member that we will look into this and we will answer the Member.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mr. Todd.

Question O314-12(2): Acquisition Of Surplus Equipment From Dewline Sites
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism. We just earlier on today got a fairly extensive briefing on the expansion and closure of the DEWline site and the North Warning System. It is my understanding the Department of Economic Development is going to be the lead department in the acquisition of the surplus assets with the closures. My question to the Minister would be, can he provide us with a complete list of the equipment that is going to be placed in the hands of the GNWT?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Economic Development and Tourism, Mr. Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I am unable to do that at this time, but I can tell the Members that there was a meeting on February 17. It was an interdepartmental meeting between Public Works, Economic Development and Tourism, Health, Government Services, Transportation, MACA, Renewable Resources, and the Science Institute. As we are the lead department, it was chaired by Economic Development and Tourism. Mr. Peter Allen, assistant deputy minister, is the co-ordinator.

We are not actually buying those assets, Mr. Speaker; we are co-ordinating other departments that have an interest in those assets. There is a report being prepared that will inventory all of those assets, and as soon as I have those assets, their locations, and who is interested in them, I will provide them to the House. If the House is not sifting, I will provide them to the Members. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.