Thank you. We are on the capital estimates, 1992-93, Department of Education. We are still on general comments. Are there any further general comments? Mr. Allooloo.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With your permission I would like to bring in some witnesses.

Does this committee agree that the Minister bring in witnesses at this time?

Agreed.

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Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. Minister. For the record, could you please introduce your witnesses?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To my left is my deputy minister, Hal Gerein and to my right is the manager of facility planning, Mr. Jim Moffat.

Thank you. Any further general comments? Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to make one additional general comment. I believe I got the matter cleared up in respect to the applied arts building for Thebacha Campus. However, I did want to make a comment on something that seems somewhat misleading and I would like to get clarification. The Department of Education submitted to all Members of this House, the Department of Education's capital planning report. It was prepared for the standing committee on finance, February 1992. In that report on page seven, second paragraph, it indicates, "A new school for the Yellowknife Separate School District and additions to schools in Pangnirtung and Pond Inlet were also delayed." However, if you go to the capital budget there is funding identified for a school in Pond Inlet. Why would the report indicate that the school was delayed when in actuality the funds are identified in the Education budget? Mr.

Chairman, the report says one thing; however, our budget documents indicate otherwise.

Mr. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Pond Inlet and Pangnirtung construction of schools has been delayed but the planning money is still there. Thank you.

Thank you. General comments. Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Perhaps going line by line on Education's budget, I wonder if you would allow us to indulge in a few general resolutions we would like to pass with respect to Education's budget.

Proceed, Mr. Todd.

Motion That Cabinet Carries Out Prior Capital Commitments In Education, Carried

Mr. Chairman, I move that the committee recommends that cabinet lives up to its prior commitments in the Department of Education, prior to proposing any new initiatives.

Thank you. It has been circulated and translated. Your motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am glad you understood my motion. The reason for this motion was that there were, in fact, previous commitments made by previous governments with respect to capital investments in existing facilities, and the concern of the standing committee on finance was that these commitments should have been kept rather than proceeding with new initiatives. It is fairly straight forward.

Thank you. To the motion.

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

--- Carried

Are there any further general comments? Mr. Bernhardt.

Motion That Department Of Education Develop Five-Year Capital Plan, Carried

Mr. Chairman, I move the following motion: I move that the committee recommends that the Department of Education develop a credible five-year capital plan to be provided to the standing committee on finance prior to the presentation of the 1993-94 capital estimates.

Thank you. The copies have been circulated. Your motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Todd.

This motion is put forward, and it was felt that the Department of Education, in its presentation, did not appear to have a five-year strategy in place as it relates not only to the capital but how it relates to both enrolment, attainment and a way in which to quantify the success of the expenditures. We therefore felt that this resolution was essential for any planning of future expenditures that the department wants to come forward with. It is fairly straight forward I think. They seem to have problems with it.

Thank you.

Thank you. To the motion. Question has been called. Opposed, if any? The motion is carried.

--- Carried

General comments. Member for Thebacha.

Motion To Give Priority To Kindergarten To Grade 12 Levels, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move that the committee recommends that the priority for educational needs be placed at the kindergarten to grade 12 levels; and further, that funding to provide the facilities for kindergarten to grade 12 levels be enhanced.