Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Maybe I could ask the Minister to clarify this for me. Is this $400,000 considered enough to take this project through design, tender, to contract documents within the next fiscal year?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Minister.
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Mr. Chairman, no.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, I guess I am going to have to speak in opposition to this motion. I think it is extremely important that the government and the department move ahead in a manner which was proposed by the two Yellowknife School Districts, No. 1 and No. 2, and that we deal with the situation in Yellowknife to make sure that the whole problem is fast-tracked and solved within the next couple of years. That means that we have to move ahead with design, tender and contract documents within the next fiscal year in order to be able to achieve the construction in the 1993-94 year.
I am also somewhat concerned with the Minister when he talks about the three boards planning. I think it is very important that we get to a point in Yellowknife where we have two school boards dealing with kindergarten to grade 12 in a comprehensive fashion. When the Minister is proposing this motion, saying that he is going to have planning money for the three school boards to deal with the problem, it does not satisfy me. It does not deal with the problem the way I see it, and that means that Sir John Franklin has to become a school that is part of the Yellowknife system, not part of the territorial system. Mr. Chairman, I am afraid that I would have to urge people to vote against this motion.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Minister.
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What this $400,000 would allow us to do is do a proper planning for Yellowknife needs in terms of schools. We will work with the
school boards to do some planning. In 1993-94 we will go into a design and possibly construction of the new school, depending on the plan that we will be working on with the boards of Yellowknife. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion. Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I have one comment. I would like to ask the Minister if they have looked at any other alternatives to address the overcrowding at Yellowknife schools; whether they considered other options such as using schools either south of the lake, or other schools that do have grade 12 available, to alleviate the pressure from Yellowknife schools, which includes Inuvik also.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion. Are you ready for the question? Mr. Minister.
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
If you will pardon me, Mr. Chairman, I will try to answer the Member's question. The answer is, we have tried to look for some solutions, including an extension to Sir John School. Our preliminary findings were that you would have to come up with $6.6 million to address the overcrowding, and the independent report told us that we need $13 million to address the Sir John if we are going to continue to use it as a regional high school for taking students from the Sahtu, Kitikmeot, and surrounding communities of the Western Arctic. We have not gone so far as to look for other places, such as Hay River and Fort Smith, although we have looked at Inuvik for an alternative highschool for some communities. But Inuvik alone would not take care of the problem if we do not extend grades in certain communities. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion. Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I recognize we have a motion on the floor, but I would like to know if I could ask your indulgence to have a five-minute break.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Do you agree that we take a five minute break?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Thank you. We will recess for 10 minutes. We will ring the bell when you should be back here.
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To the motion. Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, in regard to this $400,000 for the school planning in Yellowknife. I believe when we met with the Minister in our finance committee, we expressed a concern with regard to the overall project for the city of Yellowknife. I want to know how the project is going to proceed. I know there is planning money, but is it anticipated that the school is going to go ahead in the following year or over the next two years? What type of plan is the department contemplating? I wonder if the Minister could speak to the motion and clarify my concerns,
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Minister.
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What this $400,000 would allow us to do is to do some proper assessment and also planning with the Yellowknife boards to come up with a school in Yellowknife. Our tentative plan is to design a school that will be acceptable to the boards of Yellowknife in the following fiscal year, but we will do everything in our power to meet the requests to have a school completed in the 1994 school year.
So in essence, Mr. Chairman, for the design of the school we anticipate that we will be requesting for 1993-94, but if the design and construction could start the same year, we would try to meet that requirement. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Based on the Minister's explanation, I will now support this motion.
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Motion To Increase 1992-93 Capital Estimates For Education To Add School Planning, Yellowknife, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion, Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed, if any? The motion is carried.
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Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just in order to provide even more certainty in terms to how the process will go, I would like to propose a motion that will deal with the Yellowknife situation and also community grade extensions.
Motion To Provide Grade Extensions In Various Communities And Fast-Track New High School In Yellowknife, Carried
I move that the committee recommends that grade extensions to grade 12 be provided to the communities of Cambridge Bay, Fort Franklin, Fort Simpson and Edzo and to grade 10 in Coppermine; and further that the funding for grade extensions be taken from other projects contained in the 1992-93 capital estimates; and further that the need to address the overcrowding in Yellowknife schools be planned for immediately, based on the proposals of the Yellowknife School Districts No. 1 and 2; and further that the design and construction of the planned new high school in Yellowknife be fast-tracked to the 1993-94 capital estimates.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Before I rule on this motion, my copy here is not quite the same as the way you read it. We will take a two-minute break and then come back to it.
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I will call the committee back to order. Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake. Your motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Although the Minister has indicated that he was going to move toward implementing the grade extensions and dealing with the overcrowding in Yellowknife, I thought it was important to have a motion approved by the House setting out the direction that we would like to see things go. So this is really just for further certainty and confirming what we have already heard in statements in the House. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.