This is page numbers 303 - 326 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Arngna'naaq, Mr. Arvaluk, Hon. Michael Ballantyne, Mr. Bernhardt, Hon. Nellie Cournoyea, Mr. Dent, Mr. Gargan, Hon. Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Koe, Mr. Lewis, Mrs. Marie-Jewell, Ms. Mike, Hon. Don Morin, Mr. Nerysoo, Hon. John Ningark, Hon. Dennis Patterson, Hon. John Pollard, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Pudluk, Mr. Todd, Hon. Tony Whitford, Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Good morning. I would like to recognize, seated in the Speaker's Gallery, the Hon. David Warner, Member of the Provincial Legislature of Ontario for Scarborough/Ellesemere and Speaker of the Ontario Legislature.

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I understand that the Deputy Commissioner is prepared to assent to bills this morning. Therefore, Mr. Clerk, would you ascertain if Her Honour, the Deputy Commissioner, is prepared to assent to bills?

Assent To Bills
Assent To Bills

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Deputy Commissioner Mrs. Maksagak

Please be seated. Mr. Speaker, and Members of the Legislative Assembly, I am pleased to be here today to perform my first official act as Deputy Commissioner. Before assenting to bills, I would like to say how honoured I am to have been appointed to this position.

The position of Deputy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories has a special place in the history of the Northwest Territories, and I want you to know that I will do my best to represent the wonderful mixture of cultures and heritage that we all share.

Mr. Speaker, as Deputy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories, I hereby assent to: Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Elections Act; Bill 10, An Act to Amend the Local Authorities Elections Act; Bill 11, An Act to Amend the Plebiscite Act.

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Assent To Bills
Assent To Bills

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Please be seated. Orders of the day for Friday, March 6, 1992. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Ningark.

John Ningark Natilikmiot

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to report to the House on my recent meetings in Vancouver and Ottawa. In Vancouver I met with the Hon. John Crosbie, Minister of Fisheries and Oceans. Our discussions concerned the developing Baffin fishing industry. Mr. Crosbie was able to assure me of the following commitments:

1) The Tungavik Federation of Nunavut land claim provisions will be considered in decisions relating to the management and harvest of inshore and offshore marine resources;

2) No new northern shrimp licences will be issued. Any increases to the quota will be divided among the existing 17 licence holders, of which 1.5 licences are held by territorial companies; and

3) The Government of the Northwest Territories will continue to participate in the Atlantic Council of Fisheries Ministers and its advisory committees. Through this council, decisions are made on the management of Atlantic marine resources. I extended an invitation to co-host the next meeting of this Ministers' council in Pangnirtung next summer.

After this meeting with Mr. Crosbie, I went to Ottawa. At the National Forest Congress, I and the other Ministers of Forestry signed an accord supporting the new Canadian forest strategy. This strategy sets the direction for forest management in Canada. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to report that this strategy follows the direction that our government has already established in our forest management programs.

The strategy states that: a) forests should be harvested on a sustainable basis; b) forests are also important as wildlife habitats, for subsistence uses, and for leisure activities and should be managed accordingly; c) forests should be managed with involvement from residents; d) traditional uses and knowledge should be part of forest management.

At the National Forest Congress, I met with Mr. Paul Ramsey, who represented the British Columbia Forest Minister. We discussed the problems being created for trappers by forest companies in the Liard area. Mr. Ramsey made a commitment, on behalf of the Minister, to investigate the problems and to report back to me.

While in Ottawa, I had the opportunity to meet with several other agencies: the Fur Institute of Canada; Indigenous Survival International; the Canadian UNESCO committee; and the organizers of an international environmental education conference called ECO-ED, which will be held in Toronto this July. Each meeting related to promoting the use of renewable resources at national and international forums.

Mr. Speaker, I was encouraged by these meetings because one of my objectives as Minister of Renewable Resources is to educate the people throughout the world about the way we live. Two of these agencies are highlighting the importance of traditional knowledge, especially in resource management. The Government of the Northwest Territories is recognized as a leader in this field, in large part because of the efforts of Mr. Jim Bourque, the former deputy minister of Renewable Resources.

Although I was busy, I can also report that it is already spring in Vancouver, still winter in Ottawa, and I am glad to be home. Mahsi cho.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

We are glad to have you home, Mr. Ningark. Ministers' statements. Mr. Ningark.

Ministers' Statement 32-12(2): Community-based Forest Management Projects
Item 2: Ministers' Statements

March 5th, 1992

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I am working too hard. I am the only one

making statements here.

I am pleased to announce that with the signing of the Northwest Territories-Canada Co-operative Agreement in Forestry, the Government of the Northwest Territories now can provide more support for community-based forest management projects. The Department of Renewable Resources is working closely with the community of Fort Liard to develop an integrated resource management plan for their traditional lands. This will also provide the community with an opportunity to participate in the management of these resources. The department is fully committed to the success of the resource management plan and will use the provisions of this co-operative agreement to ensure success of the plan. The Fort Liard band is commended for their initiative in obtaining additional funding under the Arctic environmental strategy.

At the request of the Fort McPherson Band, the department has also been working on a forest inventory project. The result of the inventory will be available for review within the next few months. Thank you.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Members' statements. Mr. Gargan.

Native Languages Taught In Schools
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) Mr. Speaker, a long time ago, I went to school in Fort Providence and Fort Simpson. At the time we were only taught in English. When we said something in Slavey we were punished for it. As a result of that, when I went to school in 1967, that is the only way I have been taught. We rarely did things in Slavey; we only did things in English.

These days, when kids go to school in Fort Providence, they get taught in Slavey, but the place that they are taught is a white man's setting, and I do not feel this is right. What the government is saying, right now, is that if the communities want to govern something they would be able to help them. What I am saying, Mr. Speaker, is that if we are going to be taught in the native way I think the people at the community level should be the ones who are in charge of it. The way they sing, the way they tell stories -- these things should all be looked after by native people.

If the children were taught outside of the school setting, they would be taught better. If they were taught in the native way, the native people should be in charge of teaching them. The Department of Education should be giving some thought to these kinds of things. The people are concerned about the way the students are being taught in English and the government should be helping them. The way I see it, the songs and the native stories, the way the native language is taught right now, I do not think it will survive. I think it has to be taught outside of the school, and that way I think they will be able to preserve it. Thank you.

Native Languages Taught In Schools
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Returns to oral questions. Mr. Whitford.

Return To Question O21-12(2): French/english Admissions Clerk At H.h. Williams Memorial Hospital
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to a question asked by Mr. Gargan on February 13, 1992, and it deals with the French/English admissions clerk at the H.H. Williams Memorial Hospital in Hay River. Mr. Speaker, I have looked into the matter and the information that I have is that the H.H. Williams Memorial Hospital provides interpreter services for its patients as follows: Cree and Slavey languages, by staff members, who are compensated accordingly; Chipewyan language, no service available from staff members. Therefore three members of the community are paid to provide the service as required; French language, the hospital is attempting to recruit a French/English clerk in order for the hospital to provide service in French in addition to the English, Cree, Slavey and Chipewyan services already in place. The funding for this French/English position is received from the federal government under the Canada-Northwest Territories Co-operation Agreement for French and Aboriginal Languages.

Return To Question O21-12(2): French/english Admissions Clerk At H.h. Williams Memorial Hospital
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question O123-12(2): Enforcement Of Business Incentive Policy, Kivallivik
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Arngna'naaq on February 21, 1992, on the business incentive policy not being enforced. I have looked into the Member's concerns, and I can assure him that all contracts awarded by DPW have been, and will continue to be, awarded in accordance with all GNWT contract policies and procedures. The department follows these procedures for all contract awards in every NWT community. Thank you.

Further Return To Question O123-12(2): Enforcement Of Business Incentive Policy, Kivallivik
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. Oral questions. Mr. Gargan.

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is to the Minister of Renewable Resources. I received a fax yesterday from the Hay River Reserve. There is a concern about Evergreen Forestry, Mr. Speaker. The company itself is a company combined of Fort Providence and the Hay River Reserve, and the problem they are having right now is that they have been put on hold with regard to an agreement. The five-year agreement was signed, with three years of operation and an option of two additional years. The difficulty right now is that the government has indicated that they are not going to negotiate the two other optional years until they come up with their privatization policy or direction.

Mr. Speaker, while the government is still addressing that whole privatization issue, there is a situation where spring is around the corner, summer is around the corner, and we still have not had any direction in that area. I would like to ask the Minister whether or not he will be dealing with Evergreen Forestry with regard to the two optional years. They would like to operate for the next two years.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

The preamble was a little bit long, Mr. Gargan. If Members could try to shorten their preambles. Mr. Ningark.

John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am still new in the Department of Renewable Resources dealing with forestry, and I am very interested in the area of forestry, although I came from an area with no trees. I am also very interested in community concerns regarding this forestry issue. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Member for asking the question. I will review the matter with my officials and get back to the

Member, and I hope I will be able to deal with this matter positively for the Member's benefit. Thank you.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Are you taking the question as notice, Mr. Ningark?

John Ningark Natilikmiot

Yes.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Question is being taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question to the Minister responsible for the NWT Development Corporation. I understand the Development Corporation is establishing a retail outlet at the Lester B. Pearson International Airport in Toronto. I also understand that this outlet will be wholly owned and operated by the Development Corporation and will retail both Dene and Inuit arts and crafts.

Mr. Speaker, it was my understanding that when this corporation was created its primary role was to assist businesses and to create employment in level II and level III communities. Perhaps the Minister can inform this House whether Toronto is classified as a level II or level III community.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Economic Development and Tourism, Mr. Pollard.

Return To Question O274-12(2): Retail Outlet At Lester B. Pearson International Airport, Toronto
Question O274-12(2): Retail Outlet At Lester B. Pearson International Airport, Toronto
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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, obviously Toronto is not a level II or level III community. The reason for that retail outlet is, if we want to improve the economy in level II and level III communities in the Northwest Territories, one of the ways that we can do it is to market the products that they produce. We are trying a two-year experiment in Toronto, to move products made in the Northwest Territories into a greater marketplace. There is a lot of traffic there. If it works, we will consider going to other high density traffic areas to move more Northwest Territories products. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question O274-12(2): Retail Outlet At Lester B. Pearson International Airport, Toronto
Question O274-12(2): Retail Outlet At Lester B. Pearson International Airport, Toronto
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Dent.