This is page numbers 762 - 787 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was services.

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Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Arngna'naaq, Hon. James Arvaluk, Hon. Michael Ballantyne, Mr. Bernhardt, Hon. Nellie Cournoyea, Mr. Dent, Mr. Gargan, Mr. Koe, Mr. Lewis, Mrs. Marie-Jewell, Hon. Don Morin, Mr. Ningark, Hon. Dennis Patterson, Hon. John Pollard, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Pudluk, Mr. Todd, Hon. Tony Whitford, Mr. Zoe

-Prayer

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon. Orders of the day for Thursday, June 25, 1992. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea.

Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the Hon. Stephen Kakfwi will be absent from the House today to attend a speaking engagement with the Chancellor's Club in Calgary. Thank you.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin.

Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to report that cabinet has recently approved an outline for a training strategy for use with GNWT construction projects. A senior management committee, with membership from the NWT Housing Corporation, Public Works and Education, prepared the outline and will complete the development of the strategy by the end of the year. A series of pilot projects will be used to develop and test new approaches to construction trades training. The committee will recommend ways that strengthen the participation of NWT communities in the training initiatives and that rely on the expertise of NWT construction companies. The objective is to increase the opportunities for training in skilled and semi-skilled trades for GNWT construction projects. These efforts will result in increased certification of NWT construction workers and increase the number of NWT workers who can fill jobs in the construction industry. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-Applause

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Whitford.

Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, for a number of years inmates have been producing crafts related to their cultural background while incarcerated in territorial correctional centres. In the lobby of the Legislative Assembly building you will have noticed a vast array of carvings, paintings and other craft Items from the Yellowknife Correctional Centre. Yellowknife Correctional Centre has a crafts program where inmates from all cultural backgrounds learn from each other the skills associated with their talents.

For the first time, Yellowknife Correctional Centre has been asked to participate in a craft show, 'Festival of the Midnight Sun,' displaying crafts from all over the Northwest Territories

at various locations around the city. Those crafts not committed will be moved back to the centre by Friday afternoon, June 26, where they may be purchased between the hours of 1:30 and 4:30 p.m. Proceeds from the carvings go into two areas: first, to the inmate welfare fund to assist with other inmate programs such as sports and recreational activities; and second, into their individual accounts which assist the inmates with personal financial responsibilities at home. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-Applause

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Reassignment Of Ministerial Portfolios
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the ordinary Members' caucus has met and discussed the response of the Government Leader to address our previously expressed concerns. We were not surprised with the Government Leader not taking visible action to address our concerns.

Members strongly feel that in order to address our concerns the following must be done: the Department of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources and the NWT Power Corporation should be delegated to another cabinet Minister; the Department of Health be delegated to another cabinet Minister; the responsibilities for Social Services be reassigned to another cabinet Minister in order to allow the Departments of Health and Social Services to be amalgamated; the responsibilities of the Departments of Education and Culture and Communications be reassigned to another cabinet Minister.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time I will be placing forth a motion reflecting the ordinary Members' request. Mr. Speaker, the ordinary Members feel that if and when these steps are taken, our concerns will be addressed accordingly. Thank you.

-Applause

Reassignment Of Ministerial Portfolios
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Pudlat.

Funding For Vessel, Sanikiluaq
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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My follow Members probably recall a time when I presented a question to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism. The people of Sanikiluaq have been interested in obtaining a vessel, since they have a lot of work that is related to the bay in their area. They could also use it for hunting purposes. I wanted to further find out what will be happening because they will be submitting a proposal for funding in order to obtain a vessel, and I wanted to bring that to your attention, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Funding For Vessel, Sanikiluaq
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Gargan.

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the traditional knowledge working group was established in October 1989. Elders worked with representatives from the government and aboriginal organizations for several months to find practical ways to preserve the traditional knowledge of aboriginal people and to use this knowledge in the planning and delivery of legislation and services for northern people. The working group prepared a report with 20 recommendations for the government. This report was tabled in the House nearly one year ago in July 1991.

Mr. Speaker, this government has expressed its commitment to preserving and using the knowledge of aboriginal people. Surely this is basic to governing effectively in the Northwest Territories. Yet in all this time, there has been no strategy outlined as to how the government will use these recommendations.

Mr. Speaker, I am also concerned about the failure of the government to make use of the recommendations of another group. The aboriginal languages conference was hold in Yellowknife March 25-27, 1991. Again, aboriginal delegates and organizations made comprehensive recommendations to the government to revitalize aboriginal languages and to involve communities with designing and providing services in this area.

The Minister of Culture and Communications said back in 1991 that he would give serious consideration to the recommendations from the aboriginal languages conference. Yet again, there has been no response or plan presented to this Assembly.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister has received written concerns from myself and from the Dene Cultural Institute and the Inuit Cultural Institute about the lack of a formal response. Members of the Metis Heritage Association and the Inuvialuit social development program also feel that this is taking too long.

I will say that I have received a written response from the Minister saying that his department is reviewing the reports and outlining programs that are being conducted by his department related to traditional knowledge and culture. But Mr. Speaker, the response I received concerns me. The department is doing a little...

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Gargan, you have exceeded the time limit.

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I would like unanimous consent to continue my statement.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Gargan.

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members. The department is doing a little here and a little there for aboriginal language and culture. But it seems to be ad hoc with no comprehensive plan or strategy. The government needs to develop a strategy, and there must be greater community control in this area. This is where the traditional knowledge working group and the aboriginal languages conference recommendations are invaluable.

In light of the constitutional developments and the now direction throughout the country to recognize the aboriginal inherent right to self-government, this government should move toward devolving Dene and Inuit cultural programs to the proper recognized aboriginal authority. It is time that this government too, recognized and supported the right to self-government. The plan of this government to reshape northern government should include a strong commitment to further the self-government of aboriginal people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Lewis.

Decentralization Of NWT Science Institute
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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have looked very carefully at the New Directions paper tabled by the Government Leader, and I have one concern which I have shared with the chairman of the standing committee on finance and also with the Minister of Finance. It concerns the decentralization of the Science Institute of the Northwest Territories. About six years ago, the federal government commissioned a study on the establishment of a Polar Commission which would provide Canada, as a major polar country, with a science institute or commission that would coordinate all northern science. Three years ago the federal government passed an act creating this commission which provided for a northern office. When people in Yellowknife met with the commissioner who came to examine this issue in the NWT, we told him that he should have a northern office when this legislation is put together. That is exactly what happened, and that commission is now in place. Mr. Whit Fraser was appointed to head it up.

Now the possibility of establishing a northern office, combined with the Science Institute of the NWT, seems to have been lost because you decided to get rid of it. I think that was bad planning; it was not thought through very carefully. I would urge the government to rethink that one issue because I believe that science is of interest to us all, and It has to play a co-ordinating role in one location. Thank you.

Decentralization Of NWT Science Institute
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Zoe,

Telephone Services, Snare Lake
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to make a statement regarding telephone services for Snare Lake. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak of an intolerable situation that currently exists in several of our smaller communities. Many people in these communities do not have access to basic service that most of us take for granted - the use of a telephone, a fax machine, or a phone line for computers.

Mr. Speaker, yesterday my colleague, the honourable Member for Nahendeh, spoke about the need for the extension of further telephone lines into several communities in the Deh Cho region. In my region, the people of Snare Lake have access to just one telephone. This telephone services over 120 people in this community and, as can be expected, there is a constant line-up for its use. Currently, there is not time for this line to be used for fax machines or for computer hookups.

Mr. Speaker, the principal of the Dechi Laot'i Entike Ko School has written several letters to NorthwesTel informing them of the need for access to telephone lines at the school. This would allow the school to access outside information sources through the use of fax or computer modem. Mr. Speaker, we are living in the electronic age where essential information is now being transmitted by fax or computer modem. Yet, Mr.

Speaker, it is sadly ironic that the people who could most benefit from these mediums, the residents and students in our smaller communities, do not have access to this source of information.

Mr. Speaker, I trust that the Minister of Government Services will give this matter his urgent attention so that we can have a satisfactory resolution to this problem.

As an elder in Snare Lake pointed out to me, Mr. Speaker, and I quote: "We can put people on the moon who can...

Telephone Services, Snare Lake
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Zoe, your time limit has been exceeded.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Zoe.