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Question O874-12(2): Board Of Inquiry Terms Of Reference
Item 5: Oral Questions

September 28th, 1992

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Health. Yesterday the Minister of Health indicated that he would be making a Minister's statement on the public inquiry in Fort Smith. I believe, because of the time frame that we are meeting today, and the new deadline in place to ensure that translations of statements are placed, the Minister was unable to make a statement.

I would like to ask the Minister if it is possible, in regard to the process of the public inquiry, to submit to me a copy of the terms of reference? Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Yes, the Member is correct that, due to the early translation deadlines this morning, I am unable to make the promised statement this morning, but will do so tomorrow. I had also intended, with the statement, to circulate a copy of the terms of reference for the public inquiry which have been approved by Cabinet. I can furnish an untranslated copy to the honourable Member later today. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Dent.

Question O875-12(2): Extension Of Victims Impact Statement Program
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Justice. In his reply of September 22 to my question about expansion of the Victim Impact Statement Pilot Project, the Minister noted that relatively few victims are taking advantage of the opportunity to use the statements. Recognizing that more sentencing submissions are heard in Yellowknife than any other courthouse or circuit venue in the Northwest Territories, and that Yellowknife has volunteer agencies that could encourage and assist in ensuring the use of the Victim Impact Statements, would the Minister consider

extending the pilot project to this community, to enable a better evaluation of the Victim Impact Statement service?

Question O875-12(2): Extension Of Victims Impact Statement Program
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, in between sneezes, I think I got the gist of the question. Mr. Speaker, I do not know whether you raise this as a point of order or not, but I know that when a Member is asked to answer a question, there are not any interruptions allowed, and it does throw the question off, in some cases. It does create some problems for me.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

I am not clear, are you raising a point of order, Mr. Kakfwi?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Yes, I am raising a point of order, thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Would you clearly state your point of order, please, Mr. Kakfwi?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, there is, I believe, a point of order. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Would you clearly state your point of order, Mr. Kakfwi?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, there is a point of order to be made, in that there are certain Members who have taken to habitually sneezing, which is involuntary, but also, there are certain Members who have given to muttering, giggling and laughter at inappropriate times, when Members are trying to answer questions. It does cause some distraction, and some disorder in the House. I wanted to raise that. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

If I could comment, I do not see that you have a point of order. I think it would be very difficult to rule on whether or not a sneeze, especially in the fall, when half of the Members have colds, is appropriate, or not appropriate. It has been normal parliamentary practice on parliaments across the country, to allow some latitude in Members reactions.

I have not detected, anything whatsoever, out of the ordinary, Mr. Kakfwi, and I disallow your point of order. Mr. Lewis, point of privilege.

Point Of Privilege

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, at this time of the year, I very often find that with the onset of winter, I do get a cold, and over the last minute and a half, I sneezed twice, and it was as a result of an involuntary eruption, which I had no control over. Thank you.

---Laughter

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. If there is any more discussion needed, I may have to bring an expert medical opinion into the House.

---Laughter

Mr. Kakfwi, I think you were responding to an oral question.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the project on the Victim Impact Statements, was decided some time ago, in 1991. There were some communities that were selected, as the Member indicated, to do a pilot project, since it was agreed by the officials involved in Social Services, the R.C.M.P., and the Department of Justice, that it would be a rather complex undertaking.

We have indicated to the House, that there are some difficulties being perceived at this time. For instance, in the initial stages of the project, over 90 statements were filled out to our knowledge, but, in fact, only a small percentage of those were actually received by the legal system. I think that only two have been actually used in the courts itself, as to the reasons for it, we are not able to provide this at this time, at least, I have not received anything, except that the people involved between the R.C.M.P., our department, and Social Services, are investigation that.

Until there is some preliminary conclusions drawn from the initial pilot project communities, and the way that it was set up, I do not see how it would be of any immediate use to try, while we are trying to correct some initial problems, to set up another, supposedly pilot project, in the city of Yellowknife. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In discussing this problem with advocacy groups in communities around the Northwest Territories, and, indeed, south of 60, I was advised that a Victims Impact Statement Program, in order to be successful, needs to have a strong advocacy group pushing its use. I suspect that part of the problem, in some of the small communities, where this pilot project is being used, is that there is not such a strong advocacy group there.

Will the Minister take a look at expanding the pilot project into other communities, if not Yellowknife, where there are advocacy groups who would encourage the use of the Victims Impact Statements?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the initial pilot projects were set up some time ago. I think, perhaps, if it gives any further assurance to the Member, that my no, might be a maybe. I am prepared to go to the affected agencies that have initiated this pilot project, and are in the process of implementing, and evaluating it, to see if they see any merit in the suggestion that the Member is making. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Todd.

Question O876-12(2): Departmental Officials Seconded To Health Boards
Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be for the Minister of Health. Mr. Speaker, the Minister delivered an address to the membership of the N.W.T. Health Care

Association at their annual general meeting in Yellowknife, on September 21.

One of the things that he said, which I think is worthy of close attention, is when talking about relations between board managers and their departmental counterparts, the Minister commented that I will attempt to provide career development opportunities through term assignments and rotation. He also commented that it might become a matter of principle, that no one would reach a senior position in the department, without appropriate board experience, and vice versa.

Mr. Speaker, that sounds to me like it could be coded for an intentions to parachute departmental officials into management positions within current health and hospital boards in order to run them, according to headquarters priorities.

Will the Minister indicate, to the House, whether he is currently planning to arrange secondments that would transfer departmental officials from headquarters into management positions within hospital or health boards in the Northwest Territories?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Could I ask Members in oral questions, if they would be cautious about quoting from statements made by Ministers, or Members, outside the House? Mr. Patterson. Order please, Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I am disappointed that the Member would attribute such sinister motives to my address to the Health Care Association. I tried to reach out and invite improved relations between health boards, and the Department of Health.

I suggested a number of means, by which I thought improved relations could occur. That there should be direct relationship between the Minister and Chairs, there should be communications protocol, and yes, that it would be advantageous to health boards, and to the Department of Health, if people with field experience and headquarters experience, if you like, could exchange, and have the kind of executive interchanges that are common place in the public service.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to clarify, to the honourable Member, that this would not happen without the full concurrence of health boards. It is interesting that I have just had a chance to meet with the Inuvik Regional Health Board, I made the same suggestion, and I am pleased to tell the House, that is was welcomed by the health board in Inuvik. It would be advantageous to some of their people who have experience working in the Department of Health, and vice versa, but it would not be done unilaterally. It would be done only with the agreement, and cooperation, of health boards, and the department.