This is page numbers 53 - 84 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was capital.

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Alcohol And Drug Awareness Week, Fort Providence
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and honourable Members. Mr. Speaker, I have a message for the residents of Fort Providence. Members of the community who organized community events are getting discouraged. They are having a hard time justifying their time and efforts to put on an event that ends up being poorly attended because people are too busy drinking to be involved in our community.

It is time for those people with drinking problems to wise up and take some time to get involved with the community and to set an example for our children. Should volunteers, Mr. Speaker, be making these efforts, or is it a waste of time? Perhaps, Mr. Speaker, it is a waste of time and maybe we should look at stopping all social events.

Christmas is one month away and volunteers are required for the midnight mass. Anyone under the influence of alcohol will not be admitted under any circumstances. Please try to set a good example for our youth by attending this community celebration in a sober state. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Alcohol And Drug Awareness Week, Fort Providence
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Arvaluk.

Advisory Committee On Social Housing
Item 3: Members' Statements

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My Member's statement will try to represent some of the views of the Advisory Committee on Social Housing.

The Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation, with the cooperation of this Legislative Assembly, dissolved the NWT Housing Corporation board with the agreement to replace it with the Advisory Committee on Social Housing, including Members of this Assembly. However, Mr. Speaker, this committee has not been actively involved in strategic planning to deal with the housing crises that we are facing today. One example, the Minister wrote to advisory committee Members proposing to meet on Wednesday, at 6:00 pm after he returns from an Ottawa meeting on housing matters.

Mr. Speaker, we're starting to wonder whether or not the Minister and the president of the Housing Corporation take the Advisory Committee on Social Housing seriously. I, for one, did not have any plans to down play the former Housing Corporation board. Rather, I want to be active and as dedicated as they were in doing my job in that capacity. I am sure the other Members of the advisory committee share these same thoughts.

I'm not trying to down play the Minister's energy and hard work in trying to deal with that problem, all I'm saying is that we were appointed by this Legislative Assembly, let us participate so that the task will be easier.

Mr. Speaker, I have no choice but to bring this matter to the House. I will be asking questions of the Minister on this issue later. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Advisory Committee On Social Housing
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Koe.

Health Insurance Division, Inuvik
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the weekend I was privileged to be in Inuvik to participate in the opening of the new health insurance services division. Mr. Speaker, it was over one year ago, on June 16, 1992, that announcements of decentralization were made. Inuvik was chosen as the regional centre for this branch of the Department of Health. There have been many positive effects of this decision, especially in Inuvik, where the 12 employees who were transferred, currently 10 are employed in the division. Of those ten, I think nine of them are from the Inuvik region. There are many people to thank and many departments and agencies involved in the timing of the opening. I would like to thank Arctic College for the decentralization training program they put in place for this, the Department of Health, all the new staff who were trained and are now working in these offices, the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation who own the building these offices are in and lease back to the government and the people of Inuvik for attending the opening and witnessing this historic event.

In cases of decisions like this, I will personally continue to support initiatives to decentralize, not only in my own constituency, but across the north wherever it is feasible. When we make decisions such as this, it allows government to bring the delivery of their programs closer to the people of the north. Mahsi.

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Health Insurance Division, Inuvik
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Mr. Lewis.

NWT Council For Disabled Persons
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For 15 years the NWT Council for Disabled Persons has held a celebrity auction. In the past, I would offer to teach a class, any age, grade or level, except home economics. I taught the whole Jackson family for one whole day in Mr. Kakfwi's area at Fossil Lake. It was a real challenge. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank, on behalf of all Yellowknife MLAs and those people from out of town, who supported the NWT Council for Disabled Persons' celebrity auction on Saturday night. They were able to raise $21,000 and more and more...

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...groups like this are being asked to try to find other ways of funding their organizations as the government's ability to fund these organizations is being reduced. I hope it is recognized that people do make a big effort and we should recognize that as we look at funding these very important social organizations. I would like to thank the following Members: Mr. Allooloo; Mr. Antoine; Madam Cournoyea; Mr. Nerysoo; and, Madam Mike for their assistance.

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NWT Council For Disabled Persons
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Lewis. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Patterson.

Liquor Inspection Services In Town Of Iqaluit
Item 3: Members' Statements

November 21st, 1993

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, although there is no liquor store in Iqaluit -- it was closed to over-the-counter sales in 1976 as a result of strong public pressure -- out of a population of 3,500 people, there were apparently 2,371 intoxicated persons incarcerated for their own protection in cells last year. Although many were repeat offenders.

At a recent Liquor Licensing Board hearing on an application by the Kamotiq Inn for a cocktail lounge licence -- which I am pleased the board turned down -- many long-term residents expressed their concerns about the lack of resources devoted to liquor inspections in Iqaluit. I have received more expressions of concerns from my constituents about the adequacy of liquor inspections in Iqaluit following a death by a stab wound alleged to have occurred outside a certain licensed premise in Iqaluit this weekend. Although I would like to stress, this it is not clear at all whether over-serving is an issue in this case.

In Iqaluit, sales from one licensed premise are reported to have amounted to approximately 24,000 cans of beer in one month. A sizable portion of the revenues of which went back to our government in the form of taxes and mark-up. However, the Department of Safety and Public Services has only budgeted $25,000 per year for contract liquor inspection in Iqaluit. As I understand it, with the number of licensed premises in town, this sum only provides for about one inspection per premise per week. About one month ago, the contract was cancelled by the town of Iqaluit. There has, therefore, been no inspection services available for that time. I know efforts have been made to replace that service. So today I will be asking the Minister of Safety and Public Services what steps his department is taking to provide adequate liquor inspection services for the town of Iqaluit. Qujannamiik.

Liquor Inspection Services In Town Of Iqaluit
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Patterson. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Pudlat.

Family Allowance
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement is regarding family allowances. The people who are employed do not receive family allowance any more. We have recognized that even carvers in the communities receive this even though they are employed. This is coming up more and more that they are not receiving the allowance they should be getting. I will be asking more about this information. It is very difficult to try to get income in the north. For that reason, I will say that family allowance is getting less and less. I will be asking to get more explanation on this. Even though they go to school, there are many families without regular income. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Family Allowance
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Pudlat. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Whitford.

Alcohol And Drug Abuse In The Nwt
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to join the Minister of Social Services in commending the efforts of Northern Addictions Services and the program committee for taking the initiative in putting together such an important and innovative conference. Mr. Speaker, we are all too aware of the effect substance abuse has on all of our people in our society in the north. Just today, I was listening to the radio and there was a very dedicated lady talking about the effects of fetal alcohol syndrome/fetal alcohol effects on young people and how much of an effort it is to work with young people who have been affected, through no fault of their own, in daily living. The alarming thing, Mr. Speaker, is what is going to be happening 20 years down the road when these young people become adults and are attempting to join our society. If it is difficult for them now, it is going to be even more difficult then to cope with daily living. We, as a society, have to take heed of this problem affecting those children who are not even born, by encouraging people to drink responsibly. Mr. Speaker, even further than that, in concluding the remarks that the Minister had made, I think we have to go a little bit further than just saying nice things about having conferences and saying nice things about the dedicated workers.

I think we have to show our full support by ensuring that they receive a salary and wage that can help them to continue in the line of work they've chosen, that is comparable to other occupations. We not only have to say nice things about them and encourage them but we have to be able to accommodate them financially as well so that they can continue in this important field.

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Alcohol And Drug Abuse In The Nwt
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Whitford. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Antoine.

Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Premier. Last week, the Prime Minister of the country was here for the official opening of the new Legislative Assembly building as an invited guest. The Premier, Nellie Cournoyea, had a meeting with the Prime Minister during the Commissioner's opening address. On behalf of the Members of the Legislative Assembly and the people in the Northwest Territories, I would like to know what happened during this private discussion with the Prime Minister.

I would like to ask the Premier to share with us what was discussed at this historic meeting. Would she tell the House what items were discussed and were there any agreement or pledges of support on any of the key issues which northern people and this Legislative Assembly are facing today? Mahsi.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

Return To Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I believe there was a brief press release out on that, but I'll just recap it for you. I had just under 20 minutes to speak with the Prime Minister, Jean Chretien. What I expressed to him was that we would very much like to get our financial house in order on a number of issues. I related to him that the number one issue was the housing issue and that the number two issue was the health billings issue. As well, I believe we very briefly mentioned the issue of the military, the review they are doing and the request for our involvement.

We talked mostly about a positive and more open relationship between the territorial and federal governments, and the relationship of the territorial government at federal-provincial meetings. There was a commitment, particularly to resolve the financial issues that are presently at stake. The Prime Minister indicated that he felt he had indications from the Members of Parliament, particularly on the housing issue, and that had to be resolved. He said he would do everything he could to try to come to a conclusion on that, including discussing that with the Minister of Indian Affairs.

I said I would follow up with a detailed letter on the concerns we have so that we might address them at a date in the near future when he had more time to deal with them. As well, I also indicated that there were land claims that were being settled and land claims that would be settled in a different manner, perhaps. That is all we had time to discuss, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Return To Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

Supplementary To Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Premier indicated that there was some discussion on housing. We all know that housing is not being funded by the federal government any more and we regard this as a crisis in the north today. Was there any strong commitment made by the Prime Minister to address this pressing issue? Mahsi.

Supplementary To Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

Further Return To Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I don't wish to give overly optimistic results of the meeting, but when I did indicate to him that was the number one issue, he said he would deal with the Minister of Indian Affairs on that matter. As well, I indicated that Mr. Morin would be meeting with the Minister responsible for Housing, which was previously CMHC, whether that exists or not.

There was a strong indication that he recognized that it possibly was an oversight. I did mention to him that we had come to some kind of understanding with the Minister of the previous government that there was an oversight in dealing with the Northwest Territories. It appears there was optimism. I believe that will be determined by our follow-up meetings with them, as soon as that's possible. Mr. Morin will be leaving later today to meet with the Minister responsible for housing. Upon his return, we'll assess all the meetings that have taken place, and continue to try to resolve it.

We also provided information to the Member of Parliament, Ethel Blondin-Andrew, which we have been doing on an ongoing basis, and also to Jack Anawak. They are also coordinating the information and the priority as we indicated. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Question 32-12(4): Topics Discussed At Meeting With Prime Minister
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Koe.

Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Premier. Last week, we also had another invited guest, the new Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs, the Honourable Ron Irwin. I understand that Cabinet had a private meeting with Mr. Irwin. Can the Premier advise this House as to what issues were discussed with Mr. Irwin.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

Return To Question 33-12(4): Topics Discussed With Minister Of Diand
Question 33-12(4): Topics Discussed With Minister Of Diand
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, all of the topics that were addressed with the Prime Minister were carried over into the discussions with the Minister of Indian Affairs. We concentrated heavily on the financial situation because the issues that were of concern relate to whether we can financially afford the resolution of those problems. The Minister of Finance is doing a follow-up on all of those areas so we can capsulize exactly what those discussions were.

The other issues we discussed included the northern accord. I did not discuss this with the Prime Minister because when I was about to bring it up, he indicated that he was interested in looking at the overall devolution of responsibilities to the territorial government, taking into consideration other interests, but moving ahead in that area.

All the issues that I related to Mr. Chretien were passed on to Mr. Ron Irwin in addition to the northern accord. In addition, we also discussed outstanding land claim issues, whether they should be under the comprehensive claim or go a different route with that as well. I don't know if I missed anything. I don't have a comprehensive list. Thank you.