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Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the sale of staff housing, the Department of Government Services and DPW is in charge of the sale of staff housing. Also, Personnel is involved. The direction is to offer the sale of the staff house to the tenant who is living in the unit, to encourage tenants to get into home ownership. So far, in all the communities as of

October 28, 85 housing units have been sold under the sale of staff housing program. A total of 64 were sold directly to the tenants. As government employees, they took the offer to buy those.

A total of 21 units were sold to the public through realtors. Further, 92 sales are in the process of making arrangements for financing, where they obtain land leases and arrange for surveys. Most of these sales should be complete by year end. The Member from Fort Smith raised a concern. Ten units have been sold to employees and another eight units are pending sale. One unit was sold by public tender. It was damaged by fire and sold as surplus. All sales were based on appraised value and as a short-term strategy, tenants were offered units at 100 per cent of their appraised value.

Tenants can submit a counter offer of not less than 90 per cent of the appraised value. Two sales occurred on this basis, one in August 1992 and one in April 1993. In phase I of the strategy, tenants could submit counter offers only if they were supported by another appraisal which differed by no more than ten per cent of the GNWT appraisal. Five sales occurred under this program, the last in December 1992.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Any further comments by Ministers on their particular areas of responsibility? Ms. Mike.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the wage parity of alcohol and drug workers, it is not only the alcohol and drug workers who have a shortfall in wages. There are the workers in the elders' facilities and in group homes as well. The government is now trying to now find an overall solution on the issue of wage parity.

I'm sure that good resolutions were put forth by the Special Committee on Health and Social Services. I can not add much more to what I've already said, other than to say that I would like the department push more to get the communities involved in resolving some of the social problems we have. I do realize some of the workers are over-worked but there is a lot of room for volunteer work in the communities.

I say this because it wasn't so long ago, just 30 years ago, that people in my community were self-sufficient. They looked after their problems and we didn't have any social programs. To some extent, the government programs have taken some of that responsibility from the communities to the extent where the communities are lost. Some re-education will be required in that area. For those of you who never grew up in a small community like I did, you probably have no idea what I'm talking about. But I do. There has to be some balance. I can say Mr. Lewis has been here long enough that he has seen a lot of changes and I think he would agree with me. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Ms. Mike. Further comments by Ministers responsible for their area. Any further comments on the Minister's statement. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I believe it was the intention of the Members to attempt to go into Transportation. I do have further questions with regard to the comments on how housing was disposed of, but I won't get into the details. I would suggest that the Minister ensure these units were disposed of on appraised value, and not assessed value. But we can get that clarified in our other discussions.

Committee Motion To Defer Minister's Statement 3-12(4), Carried

Mr. Chairman, with that, I'd like to move that we defer Minister's Statement 3-12(4), Sessional Statement to a later date. Thank you.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Is it the wish of the committee that Minister's Statement 3-12(4), Sessional Statement, be deferred? The motion is in order. To the motion.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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An Hon. Member

Question.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

This item will be deferred but will remain on the order paper. What is the committee's wish to go on? Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I suggest we deal with Bill 1 and start with the Department of Transportation, Mr. Chairman.

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Does the committee agree?

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Mr. Pollard, are you prepared to go ahead with this item?

Minister's Statement 3-12(4): Sessional Statement
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John Pollard Hay River

I'm advised that the Minister of Transportation has his opening comments and is ready to go, Mr. Chairman, yes.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Do we have any general comments on Bill 1, Appropriation Act No. 1, 1994-95? We have a request for a short recess. We will take a five minute recess.

---SHORT RECESS

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

The committee will come back to order. Mr. Antoine, are you ready to make your comments as the Standing Committee on Finance chairman?

Standing Committee On Finance Comments

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Yes, Mr. Chairman. The Standing Committee on Finance made a report to the House under item 11, reports of standing and special committees. I would like to enter that into part of the general comments for this budget. I would also like to mention that the committee worked hard. We spent three gruelling weeks reviewing the budget and we have done an intensive review of the whole budget. With the help of our able Legislative Assembly staff, Mr. Doug Schauerte, Ms. Joan Irwin and Mr. George Bell, we went through the review and were able to come out with this report. With that, I have two motions I would like to do at this time, Mr. Chairman.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Please put forward your motions. We will need a quorum before a vote can be taken on it. Mr. Antoine, go ahead.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee recommends that the Financial Management Board clarify and ensure consistency in the reporting of prior year, current year and "total" expenditures in the five year capital forecast documents. The committee further recommends that the modifications, which address the difficulties identified, be contained in a five year capital forecast 1995-96 to 1999-2000 document. Mahsi.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. That motion is in order. To the motion.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. We don't have a quorum. Please sound the bells. The chair recognizes a quorum. We have a motion on the floor. Shall we read that motion again?

Committee Motion 1-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee recommends that the Financial Management Board clarify and ensure consistency in the reporting of prior year, current year and "total" expenditures in the five year capital forecast documents. The committee further recommends that the modifications, which address the difficulties identified, be contained in a five year capital forecast 1995-96 to 1999-2000 document. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 1-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 1-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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An Hon. Member

Question.