Debates of Nov. 25th, 1993

This is page numbers 171 - 204 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was municipal.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Reinstatement Of Federal Funding For Social Housing
Canada-nwt Strategic Transportation Improvement Agreement
Community-based Teacher Training Programs
Teenage Sexual Assault Booklet
Celebrating Aboriginal Achievements
Item 3: Members' Statements
Ms. Kitty Nowdluk-reynolds' Treatment By Justice System
Dental Specialist In The Nwt
The Late Billy Bourque
Vocational Rehabilitation For Disabled Persons Program
School Bus For Gjoa Haven
Airfare For Children
Working Conditions For Media
Overcrowded Schools In Pond Inlet
Inclusion Of First Nations And Metis In First Ministers' Conference
Overcrowded Conditions Of Victor Sammurtok School
Business Incentive Policy
Wildlife Studies
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Minister's Statement Re Reinstatement Of Social Housing
Update On Lake Harbour Airstrip
School Bussing Services - Policy
Allocation Of Transportation Infrastructure Funding
Licensing Restrictions Applied To Denturist
Policy For Vehicles In Maintenance Compound
Federal Priorities For Transportation Infrastructure
Pupil/teacher Ratio Under Collective Agreement
Capital Expenditures To Meet Growth In Student Population
Policy For Non-medical Escorts
Delays In Appeals Process
Written Question 15-12(4): Disabled Persons' Vocational Rehabilitation Cost-sharing
Issuance Of Contracts To Optical Companies By Department
Date Of Federal Minister's Response On Housing
Reason For GNWT Issuing Contracts To Optical Companies Vs Consumers Choosing Suppliers
Assistance For Pond Inlet Student In Ottawa
Lake Harbour Airport - Move Up Date For Improvements
Construction Of Community Access Road - Gjoa Haven
Return To Written Question 14-12(4): Iqaluit Council Dissolution Discussions
Return To Written Question 11-12(4): Policy Of Funds For Missing Persons
Item 10: Petitions
Committee Report 6-12(4): Report Of The Standing Committee On Public Accounts Summary Report On The Review Of The Financial Statements Of The Government Of The Northwest Territories And The Report Of The Auditor General For Canada For The Year Ending March 31, 1992
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Bill 2: An Act To Amend The Charter Communities Act
Bill 3: An Act To Amend The Cities, Towns And Villages Act
Bill 4: An Act To Amend The Hamlets Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal
To Adopt Recommendation 11
To Adopt Recommendation 12
To Adopt Recommendation 13
To Adopt Recommendation 14
To Adopt Recommendation 15
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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John Todd Keewatin Central

(Microphone turned off) ...in consultation with the community. Based upon the advice that's given from Mr. Arvaluk, we are doing the pre-engineering work this summer. That's what the $50,000 is in there for. The pre-engineering work to determine what has to be done on the wharf...What has to be done in terms of the drainage of the bay and the work can SNAFU.

We will do the rest of the work over 1995-96. We're currently in discussions with the community, in particular the contractors, to develop a schedule. There may be some consideration given to negotiating that contract to ensure that the maximum benefits are accrued to the communities. There was no money in 1994, we've moved it up. It's only $50,000, but it's to get the pre-engineering work done. I want to assure Mr. Arvaluk, that in 1995-96 we will conclude the work. In discussions with the contractors there, we're trying to work out a program that would ensure that the majority of these dollars would stay in the community and that's an ongoing discussion that is going on at this time. Thank you.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Keewatin, total region, $500,000. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to this particular region we do have a motion that I'd like to move.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

I move that the 1994-95 capital estimates for the Department of Transportation under the activity transportation planning for the item Rankin Inlet marine resupply terminal, in the amount of $50,000 be deleted. Thank you.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Any comments on the motion? Going once.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Question has been called. All those in favour of the motion, please signify. All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Total region, $450,000.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you very much. Kitikmeot, total region, $4.230 million. Agreed?

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Whitford.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to know whether the harbour enhancement at Pelly Bay is part of this new resupply scheme that is being undertaken for some of the communities that have no other access than by air. Pelly Bay was one of them but now it has access by the sea for sea-lift. I wonder if this is in connection with the sea-lift or is it something else, Mr. Chairman. I recall being in Pelly Bay and speaking to the Member about this, along with other communities that are coastal in nature where there is no real harbour for parking boats, schooners and stuff like that that people so depend on. In many places I've seen boats just pulled up on the beach on the rocks and they receive a beating from the waves and stuff. The community has asked, in some places, that they clear away the rocks in order for the boats to sit on a softer bottom than rocks. Is this part of that kind of enhancement? Is it including small boats, those kinds of things, or is it merely for the larger ships and off-loading stuff?

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Whitford, I thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Chairman, we're all aware that last year and the year before we managed to, for the first time, bring a ship into Pelly Bay to deliver the POL products. It's our intention to continue with that program. It saved significant dollars for this government.

The intent in 1994-95 is that we'll construct a new landing area to support the resupply operations in Pelly Bay. It's also our intention, not only to facilitate the larger ships, but the resupply of POL products and, hopefully, down the road try cargo. It is also our intention to ensure that whatever improvements we do will facilitate the use for local boats as we've done in other regions. Thank you.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Kitikmeot, total region, $4.230 million. Mr. Arvaluk.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm curious because it's the Kitikmeot and there are no highways or winter roads. I don't think I will find it anywhere, Mr. Chairman. We have been going to Fort Good Hope, Fort Franklin, Tuktoyaktuk and Aklavik by winter roads because it's cheaper. We've found out the only way to get to Pelly Bay is by plane, let alone roads, winter roads or any other type including marine shipping. Why isn't there a road being built there from the nearest shipping port, for example Repulse Bay or Spence Bay? Why hasn't there been anything done for the winter road in the past?

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

That you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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John Todd Keewatin Central

It's my understanding that the department actually looked at investigating the possibilities of winter roads from Repulse and Taloyoak. In their investigations as to the costs and cost-benefit analysis that would be accrued by doing this, it was determined that the most appropriate, cost-effective course of action was what we're currently doing. That is, trying to resupply Pelly Bay with ships, which wasn't done in the past.

There was some research done, but it was determined through the investigations the most cost-effective way was the utilization of ship directly into Pelly Bay.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Todd. Kitikmeot region. The chair recognizes Mr. Ningark.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The options of providing supplies to Pelly Bay either by air, barge, ship or winter road from Repulse Bay or Taloyoak has been reviewed, I believe when Mr. Gordon Wray was a Minister. According to my understanding, the saving we could provide to this government is by barge or by ship. Unfortunately the only means of transportation by sea is with an ice breaker. That would be an option for the government because that would provide a savings to the government, and the savings could be used for other meaningful programs for the people of the NWT.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Member for Natilikmiot. Mr. Minister, any comment on that? Okay, the item is Kitikmeot. Any further comments on that item? Total region, $4.230 million.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Total buildings and works, revised, $30,905 million.

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 15-12(4): To Delete $50,000 For Rankin Inlet Marine Resupply Terminal, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Total activity, $30,905 million.