Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reality was that the fourth floor of the WCB building, for whatever reason, was unfortunately unoccupied and the WCB was paying $135,000 annual costs a year for a space that wasn't utilized. I took the initiative, along with some other people, to try to find new clients for the WCB. We were fortunate in making a deal with Sport North. Sport North has agreed to take the ground floor of the WCB building and the WCB will move onto the fourth floor. The total savings are not $135,000, unfortunately, but the total savings are $75,000. That's how it came about.
Debates of Dec. 7th, 1993
Topics
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
John Todd Keewatin Central
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Fred Koe Inuvik
Thank you. I also notice that there was a lot of money going into computer hardware and software. One of the items is the acquisition of a software program for staff to complete client vocational assessments. Currently, such assessments are done in the southern centres. I know one of the recommendations, from the standing committee I chair, stated we should be looking at the rehabilitation processes and have our own rehabilitation centre in the north. Is this the front line part of that initiative?
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
John Todd Keewatin Central
The whole rehabilitation costs, as Mr. Koe has pointed out, are very expensive. The majority of it is done in southern Canada. This is what you might call the administrative component of it. This is trying to put it into a computerized form, to save us some money. The next step is moving the rehabilitation back north. I understand there are discussions under way with the Stanton Hospital, in an effort to see if this could be done. The hospital, at the present time, is under-utilized and there is space available. There are discussions under way between the hospital and hospital board staff. But at this time, I am not up to date with the status of where that sits. But this expenditure is primarily for the administrative component to computerize it.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Fred Koe Inuvik
I hope this new computer, hardware and software is fraud proof? Is it?
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Fred Koe Inuvik
Fraud proof.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
John Todd Keewatin Central
No comment.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514

The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you. Any further comments on the Workers' Compensation Board capital plan? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I recognize the capital expenditure plan is just a proposal in front of us, but I do want to comment on a concern I have for the phenomenal amount of expenditures that are being spent on computers. The committee has also noted that. I recall in the past few years, there has been a significant amount spent on computers for WCB. I sometimes think if they spent less time figuring out what computers they need to do their work and more on their clients, we probably wouldn't have so many problems with WCB. Would the Minister ask for a review of the types of computers that were purchased, the amount and what they propose to do with what they would call the "obsolete" computer equipment they now have? I know a phenomenal amount was spent from the previous chairmen of WCB. Would the Minister review that and bring his findings to the House? Thank you.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 514
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515
John Todd Keewatin Central
There is no denying that under the previous administration of the WCB, there was a significant amount of dollars spent. Whether they were well spent, I am not sure. But the question would certainly give me an opportunity to do exactly that. I would be prepared to provide the honourable Member with that information. I concur.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515

The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Does the committee agree that the matter of the Workers' Compensation Board capital expenditure plan is concluded?
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515
The Chair Jim Antoine
Thank you. What is the wish of the committee? The chair recognizes Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Since we have accomplished everything we intended to do today, I would like to move we report progress.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515

The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you. We have a motion on the floor which is not debateable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
I shall rise and report progress.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 515
The Speaker
Good evening. Item 19, report of committee of the whole, Mr. Chairman.
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Page 515

The Chair Tony Whitford
Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 1, Committee Report 3-12(4) and would like to report progress with two motions being adopted. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of committee of the whole be concurred with.
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Page 515
The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Whitford. The seconder to the motion is Mr. Koe. The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Item 20, third reading of bills. Item 21, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.
Item 21: Orders Of The Day
Item 21: Orders Of The Day
Page 515
Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Speaker, there is a meeting of the Ordinary Members' Caucus at 9:00 am tomorrow morning. Orders of the day for Wednesday, December 8, 1993.
1. Prayer
2. Ministers' Statements
3. Members' Statements
4. Returns to Oral Questions
5. Oral Questions
6. Written Questions
7. Returns to Written Questions
8. Replies to Opening Address
9. Petitions
10. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
11. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
12. Tabling of Documents
13. Notices of Motion
14. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills
15. Motions
- Motion 4, Independent Review of Triple Designation of River Ridge Facility
- Motion 5, Adopting Members' Conduct Guidelines
- Motion 6, Legislature Recommendation to the Electoral District Boundaries Commission
- Motion 7, Appearance of Witnesses before Committee of the Whole when Dealing with Family Violence in the NWT
16. First Reading of Bills
17. Second Reading of Bills
18. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
- Minister's Statement 3-12(4), Sessional Statement
- Bill 1, Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
- Bill 2, An Act to Amend the Charter Communities Act
- Bill 3, An Act to Amend the Cities, Towns and Villages Act
- Bill 4, An Act to Amend the Hamlets Act
- Bill 5, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 5, 1992-93
- Bill 6, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1993-94
- Committee Report 3-12(4), Review of the 1994-95 Capital Estimates - Committee Report 10-12(4), Final Report on the Northwest Territories Power Corporation
19. Report of Committee of the Whole
20. Third Reading of Bills
21. Orders of the Day