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Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Please remind Members that the preamble to oral questions should be just sufficient to set up the question. It shouldn't take the place of a Member's statement. Minister of Renewable Resources, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I understand the sport hunters that come up here are given clear understanding of the type of animal that they can hunt. It's usually limited to mature male animals, and there's a quota on the number that they can legally harvest. The sport hunter operators that take them out are obliged to monitor that. While we don't have enforcement officers out with every sport hunter, we do try to monitor, as much as we can, what the sport hunters are doing. There is good cooperation from the hunting outfitters in this regard. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

(Translation) Sometimes when things are said in Slavey it takes longer than it does in English....To monitor themselves but they are obliged to practice a good hunting method and so forth. My concern here is that hunters from the band

in Fort Simpson have gone into the mountains, returned back and reported that they came back empty handed because they couldn't find any game. My concern is also that in Wrigley they have gone hunting...The question is, what happens to the meat of these trophy animals that are taken by the big game hunters? Big game hunters hunt only for the horns and the antlers, they take that home, what happens to the meat?

Supplementary To Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
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The Speaker

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I think the department had taken some steps with the outfitters to make some arrangements this past season to take the meat of animals harvested by sport hunters to the nearest community and distribute it there to the residents. How well it is done, I am not aware. I can tell the Member that I know there was an effort made by the department to fly meat out where it was economic, convenient and possible to do so and to pass out the meat to the neighbouring communities. I can ask the department to give Members a status report on the success of that initiative, which I knew they were preparing to get into in the spring. Thank you.

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Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
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The Speaker

Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

Supplementary To Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to the same Minister with regard to this particular problem. Big game hunting was put into effect without the Government of the Northwest Territories back in 1971. And, of course, it was without the involvement of the local people whose traditional areas were carved up. The majority of them were set aside for big game outfits out of the territories. Is there any way that local communities could get involved in the process of issuing licenses so that there will be more monitoring, since you've said these big game hunters are obliged to monitor themselves? Thank you.

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Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
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The Speaker

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, there are a number of outfitters in the Northwest Territories. As the Member said, the licenses to operate were issued some years ago. I know the question of whether the people of the north, particularly aboriginal people, should have the first right to purchase and own these has come up, particularly during the course of claims negotiations. In fact, one group, for sure, has right of first refusal, and both regional claims have those clauses in their agreements.

How people could get involved in monitoring these is a good question. What I understand is that these operators go into the mountains or out in the barren lands, wherever they operate, and they know that one of the conditions of their license is that they operate within the laws set up by the Government of the Northwest Territories. We know that none of them condone any illegal hunting or any infraction of the laws that govern these provisions.

Some of these operators, as well, hire northern people, aboriginal people, as guides and workers so there is some assurance for local people that what is going on out there is fully within the laws, and the outfits are run by good, honest, hard-working people. I have no specific suggestions to make about how to reassure people that these operations are not breaking any laws. I have to believe they are working within the provisions and laws they are bound by. When they come out with their trophies, there are tags that are bound to the antlers and other trophies that come out. Those are the ways we can reassure ourselves that things are being done in a rational manner. Thank you.

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The Speaker

As I've reminded Members about the length of their preambles, I will also remind Ministers about their responses. Responses to oral questions should be short and factual. Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

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Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't think I got an answer in that, but I'll try again.

---Laughter

My concern is that there are a number of operators, eight that operate in the Mackenzie mountains. Two are from Whitehorse, two are from BC, three are from Alberta, and one is from Norman Wells. In my area, I don't think meat has come into my communities from their kills, nor have their been any guides hired from my community. And, besides, they are not monitored. The games officers don't monitor them.

The people are coming to me saying they're concerned that they are taking too many animals. I'm asking if there is any way that communities could get involved in monitoring these big game hunters? Perhaps through a committee set up in that area, to issue a number of tags, or so forth. Conservation is a big issue in the north. You have polar bear quotas, and you have caribou quotas. We don't know how much is taken out of the mountains. It is unknown. If the big game hunters are coming in there and killing as much as they want, we don't know. So, I'm asking the Minister if there is any system in place where we could get involved, at the community level, to monitor these hunters?

Supplementary To Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
Question 214-12(4): Regulation Of Sport Hunters In Fort Simpson Area
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I know that the claims negotiations process is used as one way in which people can get involved in outfitting, or else give themselves assurance that the ownership of such things in their areas will certainly come to their table at some time, especially if there is change of ownership contemplated. Having said that, there are a couple of other possibilities.

One is, if the community wants to look at it as an economic development initiative, the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism is more than willing -- or if he isn't, he will be --

---Laughter

to meet with communities and regions to discuss their interest in areas like this. Apparently, he has recently written to the chief of Wrigley to indicate if Wrigley wishes to discuss interest in the Mackenzie mountains outfitting business, that they would be prepared to meet with the community to do that. Strictly from a harvester's point of view, if the people of Simpson, for instance, wish to discuss how they may become more knowledgeable and involved in the operations of these outfitters, and if they wish to take a more hands-on approach, the Department of Renewable Resources will be very happy to set up a meeting to discuss ways in which people may wish to pursue that objective. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Dent.

Question 215-12(4): Department Accept Financial Responsibility For Stolen Vehicle
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this question is for the Minister of Transportation. I would like to thank the Minister for his response earlier today. I'm happy to hear that the Department of Transportation policy requires keys for vehicles to be left in the office at the end of the day, and not in the vehicles.

Since the Minister has said that the incident, in which a vehicle was stolen and seriously damaged, was a result of a breech of departmental policy, I'd like to ask if the Minister will now recognize his moral responsibility and direct the department to take financial responsibility for the serious mistake of leaving the keys in that vehicle and pay for the damage that happened as a result of that vehicle being stolen?

Question 215-12(4): Department Accept Financial Responsibility For Stolen Vehicle
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Minister Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I thought it was a financial responsibility, not a moral one. It's my understanding, Mr. Speaker, I believe it's Yellowknife Motors -- friends of Mr. Dent's, I understand -- who have now filed a claim...

---Laughter

...Well, it must be -- a claim with the insurance agent. The recovery of the costs from the GNWT will be subject to discussions between the company's insurer and the government's insurer. The reason for the situation today is to avoid jeopardizing the insurance company's position. We are in a situation where we're obliged to not comment on the dispute as it currently sits. Does that answer the question?

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The Speaker

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Gargan.

Question 216-12(4): Client's Complaint With WCB Response On Appeal
Item 5: Oral Questions

December 6th, 1993

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Back in 1991, Dennis Patterson was the Minister of the Workers' Compensation Board. I wrote to him about a gentleman by the name of Frederick Sabourin, who was working on a building. He had an accident during that time and has collected workers' compensation for that. In the fall of that same year, I went to see this person. Dennis Patterson wrote to me in February, and on April 8, this individual went to see the doctor. The doctor was a bone specialist. At that time, he discussed with the doctor that he had written to the Workers' Compensation Board about what the doctor had found out after he examined him. Ever since that time, he hasn't heard back from the Workers' Compensation Board. I'd like to ask the Minister if there is anything going to be done about this. Thank you.

Question 216-12(4): Client's Complaint With WCB Response On Appeal
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The Speaker

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

As I stated earlier, last week in the House, I believe, there are over 3,000 claims that come before the Workers' Compensation Board. There are, currently, 44 outstanding. I'm not in a position today to respond to the honourable Member but I will look into it and get back to him by tomorrow. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Supplementary, Mr. Gargan.

Supplementary To Question 216-12(4): Client's Complaint With Wcb Response On Appeal
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

(Translation) The Minister said, there are about over 3,000 appeals still waiting. At the time he wrote to the Workers' Compensation Board, I don't think there were that many appeals ahead of him. About the time he wrote to the Workers' Compensation Board, how many appeals were there then? How much longer does this person have to wait?

Supplementary To Question 216-12(4): Client's Complaint With Wcb Response On Appeal
Question 216-12(4): Client's Complaint With WCB Response On Appeal
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The Speaker

Minister Todd.