Thank you. Mr. Koe.
Debates of Dec. 7th, 1993
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Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Fred Koe Inuvik
I will be the last Member to chastise any other Member or region for creating jobs. I haven't seen the updated list of where money is going, but I understand that, initially, a great deal of money went into building infrastructure, to build and replace a great deal of existing buildings, which already had people employed in them. With all the money that has gone into new infrastructure, how many new jobs were created?
(microphone off)... Arctic Winter Games jackets, et cetera and trinkets, but for real jobs in communities where infrastructure was replaced. For example, Fort McPherson canvas shop, Pang weaving shop, and I think the list goes on.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
I can't break that out here, looking at the budget. We have 24 enterprises. We have invested $24.8 million. As far as I understand it, we have one problem, one issue out of $24.8 million in investments, regarding the private sector versus the development corporation. That is the first one I want to clarify. In quantitative terms, we have one issue out of $24.8 million, over the last three or four years. In terms of jobs and breaking it out, in terms of new versus replacement of existing, I don't have that detail at this time. All I know is that we have created, as I have said earlier in my opening address, somewhere around 200 jobs for aboriginal northerners, 40 jobs to non-aboriginals. We have also created around 300 cottage workers' jobs. By that, I mean fishermen, hunters, ladies who sell parkas, et cetera. If he wants it broken out project by project, I can provide him that information. Some projects are new. Some are old. Some is new capital, some is replacing the existing capital. Fort McPherson is one example. We put a new facility in there. Rankin Inlet is another example. We are putting a new facility in there. The list goes on. So, I am not in a position today to break it out.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Koe.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Thank you. On top of the $6 million capital that is provided to businesses in the north, I know that there is other O & M business financial assistance available. There is EDA money available. How much additional money, on top of this capital, is given to these 24 enterprises?
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
It is my understanding that it is a one hit deal, $6 million, that we provide to the NWT Development Corporation. We don't provide any other additional O & M costs. We do provide some small subsidies, like a freight subsidy, for the fishermen directly in Pangnirtung, for example. There is no large subsidy outside of the $6 million contribution. Again, I can provide that if the honourable Member wants it.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
The issue that the Minister raised about the Arctic Winter Games jackets. I understand a firm in Rankin Inlet won the tender to do these jackets. That company, and I don't have the name, was some money out of the $6 million given to that company, then, as a contribution?
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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December 7th, 1993
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, Mr. Chairman. Money was given to that company, the Ivalu Arts, similar to the Jesse Oonark, who was successful in the sweatshirts. Money was given to that organization as well.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
How much was given to the Yellowknife company?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
The Yellowknife company is not a joint venture or a subsidiary of the NWT Development Corporation. It is a privately owned company.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Total region, $6 million. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
So, that means no money was given to that company, Polar Parkas?
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Polar Parkas was successful in acquiring, under my Minister of MACA, some of the Arctic Winter Games tendered contract. As far as the NWT Development Corporation budget is concerned, there is no venture between Polar Parkas and the NWT Development Corporation.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
In terms of Ivalu Arts in Rankin Inlet, no other money or subsidies have been given to it to do this Arctic Winter Games contract?
Committee Motion 77-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Ivalu Arts is a subsidiary of the NWT Development Corporation run by a community group. It is a fiscal entity of the NWT Development Corporation. It is a company of the Development Corporation.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.