Do we get new telephone directories with that, so we know who is who and who is where?
Debates of Dec. 8th, 1993
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
We should get transparencies, so we can change them easily. Mr. Minister, I don't know whether that was a question or a little tongue-in-cheek. He requested new telephone directories with the listing. Actually, a list probably wouldn't be such a bad idea, Mr. Minister, of where the changes are. The total department, special warrant, $41.015 million.
Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Everybody has a chance to voice their opinion here. Not previously authorized, negative $1.383 million.
Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Northwest Territories Housing Corporation
Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
NWT Housing Corporation, operations and maintenance, special warrant, $1 million. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
This direct lending mortgage loan fund was approved on May 11. My question is, how many people applied for loans and how many were successful in getting mortgages through this fund?
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, at this time, there are 13 applications for consideration under the direct lending mortgage loan fund. Mr. Chairman, there are nine clients in the Hay River district, three in Yellowknife and one in the Inuvik district. If all applications are approved, then the total appropriation would be utilized. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Are they in the regions or in those communities? There are three regional centres that you have mentioned. Which communities are they from?
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, that was reported out of the districts. I don't have the communities available, but I will make those communities available to the Member. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Obviously, the fund was set up for people in communities without banking or without ability to get direct financing, so I would assume that the loans/mortgages were lent to people who live in communities outside of centres with banks. That is my concern there. My other question is, is this $1 million going to be an ongoing, revolving fund, or is it a one-shot deal? It doesn't say. It is a mortgage/loan fund, but does the money that is recovered go back into the fund with interest, or how is it managed?
Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, that is the expectation. I would point out that, primarily, this was set up for units situated on band land, where mortgages cannot be registered. We had pretty good uptake from the banks on the regular mortgages where there were leases or freehold land, but on issues where there was band lands and there may have been some other people who were falling through the cracks, this is what the fund was set up for. Of course, that situation, until there is a resolution of that with the federal government, is not going to go away so I anticipate that we are probably going to be doing this for some time in the future, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Mahsi. I wasn't aware that it was only for band lands. I guess that is causing a problem in some of the communities because people are trying to get mortgages or funds through the Housing Corporation offices and they are not being successful. So, there has to be some PR done here or some more information. I got a call today from an individual who cannot access money and cannot get a new house because their income is too high. She also cannot access this fund. There is a problem here.
Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, I think Mr. Morin and myself would be pleased to hear of these kinds of cases, where there are people having problems accessing the regular banking system because we do have letters from the banks that they will entertain mortgages throughout the Northwest Territories. I am sure Mr. Morin or myself will gladly take up that case and investigate those situations to see why, in fact, these people are not able to access the regular mortgages that are available to people in the Northwest Territories. If anyone gets a case like that, I would suggest that you pass it on to us. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Minister Pollard. Housing corporation, the Chair recognizes the next person, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, we would like to move to report progress.