Debates of Dec. 8th, 1993

This is page numbers 517 - 564 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Contributions Policy - Local Community Transportation Facilities
Building And Learning Strategy
Dene Kede Curriculum Launched
Member's Statement Re Proposal To Close Akaitcho Hall
Member's Statement Re Resignation As Deputy Speaker
The Importance Of Literacy
Prospecting Course In Baker Lake
Member's Statement Re Subsidized Housing Program
Member's Statement Acknowledging Pages From Inuvik
Member's Statement Welcoming Pages From Rankin Inlet
Miracle In Iqaluit
Appreciation To Honourable M. Ballantyne
Return To Oral Question 173-12(4): Method Of Identifying Former Dumping Sites In The Arctic Ocean
Return To Oral Question 197-12(4): Handling And Transportation Of Firearms
Further Return To Oral Question 188-12(4): Change Of Name Procedures
Further Return To Oral Question 166-12(4): Financial Assistance For Family Of Missing Hunter From Arviat
Further Return To Oral Question 218-12(4): Negotiations For Arctic Airports
Further Return To Oral Question 151-12(4): Availability Of Funding To Communities Visiting Greenland
Further Return To Oral Question 171-12(4): Process For Determining Maximum Value Of Contracts
Further Return To Oral Question 161-12(4): Finance Officer Responsible For Official Languages
Further Return To Oral Question 158-12(4): Funds For Communities Under Languages Agreement
Return To Oral Question 162-12(4): Date Premier Became Aware Of Lapsed Funds Under Languages AgreementFurther Return To Oral Question 163-12(4): Lapsed Funds Under Languages Agreement
Further Return To Oral Question 174-12(4): GNWT Commitment To Spreading Conference Business Throughout The Nwt
Return To Oral Question 180-12(4): Cost Of Sending Student From Pond Inlet To Iqaluit
Return To Written Question 16-12(4): Student Loan Agreement
Role Of Em&pr
Discussions With Federal Government Re Northern Energy Accord
Changes In Em&pr To Focus On Mineral Development
Type Of Expertise Shared With Other Groups
Training Programs For Heavier Involvement In The Mining Industry
Purpose Of Road To Arctic Coast
Transfer Of Em&pr Positions To The East
Construction Of Road To Rae Lakes
Increases In Social Assistance Rates
Division Secretariat Established By Cabinet
Hiring Of Outside Electricians When Local People Available
Date Of Decision To Set Up Division Secretariat
Reinstatement Of Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Department Responsible For Mining
Transportation Strategy Report
Full-time Ed&t Staff Requested For Hall Beach
Funds For Meeting Of Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Projected Deficit For 1993-94
Drivers' Licences - Changes For Visually Impaired
Stockpiles Transferred For Roads In Chesterfield Inlet
Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management Contributions
Dene Cultural Institute Proposal, Fmb Review
Problems With Birth Certificates
Ed&t Office To Handle Industrial Benefits From Major Projects
Minister's Reference To Mess In Social Services
Tabling Of Terms Of Reference For Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Question 249-12(44): Eviction Of Tenants For Rental Arrears In Baffin Public Housing
Ed&t Minister's Ignorance Of Initiative Announced By Premier
Item 7: Returns To Written Questions
Return To Written Question 15-12(4): Disabled Persons Vocational Rehabilitation Cost-sharing
Return To Written Question 16-12(4): Student Loan Agreement
Return To Written Question 18-12(4): Ministers' Home Travel
Return To Written Question 24-12(4): Languages Commissioner's Travel List
Return To Written Question 25-12(4): Bosco Homes Contracts And/or Contributions
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Referral Of The Comprehensive Audit Of The Department Of Economic Development And Tourism To The Standing Committee On Public Accounts
Adopting Members' Conduct Guidelines
Legislatures Recommendation To The Electoral District Boundaries Commission
Appearance Of Witnesses Before Committee Of The Whole When Dealing With Family Violence In The Nwt
Revert Back To Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Amend Subclause 3(2) Of Bill 1
To Amend Schedule To Bill 1
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

We have Supplementary Appropriation No. 5, 1992-93. We will go on to details. Agreed?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Department Of Personnel

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 6, Supplementary Appropriation No. 5, 1992-93, Personnel, operations and maintenance, employee benefits, not previously authorized, $684,000. Agreed?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

All right. Total department, $684,000. Agreed?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Justice

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Page 7, Justice, operations and maintenance, police services, not previously authorized, $146,000. Agreed?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, $146,000. Agreed?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Health

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Page 8, Health, operations and

maintenance, territorial hospital insurance services, not previously authorized, $76,000. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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December 8th, 1993

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister advised us that these are the supps to the end of March, 1993. What is the current estimate of the debt, the amount of the health billings dispute at this date?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, the balance outstanding at March 31, 1993, was $86.682 million and it relates to the fiscal years 1986-87 to 1992-93. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 8. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

I am curious as to what the estimate debt is, as of today.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, I am estimating the debt as of today at a little over $100 million.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary appropriation, Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

What is the status of negotiations with the federal Department of Health, at this stage, on recovery of that debt?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, at the present time, our lawyers are proceeding with our court case. Within the next 48 hours, I will have before me the total picture on not only the dollar amounts, because we have known that all along, but where those dollars relate to, the different agreements that are covered by the dollars that we feel are owing to us and the respective amounts of each of those agreements in dollar form. This is the information that I require to enable me to authorize the next step of the negotiations, whereby there will be some discussion with the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs and, after that, we will be passing the information on to our lawyers to discuss with lawyers representing DIAND. I anticipate knowing a little more about where we are at with negotiations, probably by January 15, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Territorial hospital insurance services. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

This government is still pursuing the litigation, through court, on trying to settle this debt. Is that the case?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Minister.